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ZurdoDev wrote:
Yes, the Left has been evil and corrupt for decades.
I don't think "the Left" you are talking about is actually left, but some form of radicalized whining.
"All men are trash!" - 'the Left'
"Women should be treated equal to men and have all the same rights and opportunities and we, as a society, should look out for inequalities and think on how to solve them." - actual left

Me: "Hi, I noticed you from across the bar and..."
The Left: "OMG WHY ARE YOU RAPING ME!?"
actual left: "Hi, nice to meet you." (or with my luck "Hi, so brave of you to talk to me, but I have a boyfriend.")

There really is a difference Wink | ;)
Also, I don't think 'the Left' are any more corrupt than 'the Right' who are actually quite similar to 'the Left'.
Of course I'm not talking about actual rights who may be more like actual lefts than you think.

On that account, I have a problem with the terms 'left' and 'right', they push people in a corner and add to further polarization.
I would probably be considered left on all accounts in America (like most Europeans), but in the Netherlands I'm more to the right.
Gun ownership isn't even a thing in the Netherlands, but in America I think it's mostly reserved for the right.
So what if you promote gun ownership and a wall with Mexico, but you also want a social economic system where the rich pay more taxes and everyone is insured?
We have Wilders, pretty much a racist politician who is considered 'extreme right', but he's actually pretty left when it comes to economic issues (I think he's a better fit with our leftist parties than our right, although they think otherwise).

I also think this lack of nuance plays a big part in the ongoing radicalization.
It's either you love afro-Americans (is that the correct term nowadays?) and want their babies or you're a racist.
Maybe you should actually be discussing why afro-Americans still struggle like they do.
I mean, you can't just deny they have a much higher chance of ending up in crime and going to jail, and police violence is just a small part of that problem.
Unfortunately, when mentioning such a statistic you're labeled a racist and so radicalization continues.
I'm not sure where this lack of nuance comes from though, is it the media, social inequality, lack of education, all of the above?
I do know it's not necessarily an American problem, although it takes pretty extreme forms there.
We have the same problems with Turks and Moroccans (and to a lesser extent Eastern Europeans who come to "steal our jobs").

Trump is clearly on 'the Right' camp, with very unnuanced statements that only add to polarization and radicalization, which is probably a large part of the cause of the problems you're currently having.
Instead of building a wall, and so implicitly labeling Mexicans as unwanted "aliens", he could've started a constructive discussion.
Instead of Tweeting "if the looting starts the shooting starts", he could've Tweeted something about, well, basically anything that wouldn't make a bad situation worse, but maybe something about solidarity and condemn racism.
I know, I know, "these looters had it coming, they're dumb and criminal and they deserve to be shot", but the fact is shooting them will only incite more violence and won't solve anything in the end.
Ironically, getting rid of his opponents is exactly how China would've done it.

So yeah, I tried to keep this as nuanced as possible to not offend anyone Laugh | :laugh:
To sum up, I think your "Left" should simply be replaced with "people" and it's pretty accurate.

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