C / C++ / MFC

4-Sep-07 3:43

This has to be in a faq somewhere, but data is eluding me... when I create a dialog, and the messages begin to flow into the message pump... when is CWnd guaranteed to be good?

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Re: When is CWnd valid?

led mike4-Sep-07 4:38

led mike

4-Sep-07 4:38

charlieg wrote:
when is CWnd guaranteed to be good?

When it's window handle is "valid" or IsWindow(...) which of course happens after CreateWindow and before DestroyWindow. Also you must be accessing the object from the same thread it was created in since MFC uses TLS to maintain CWnd/HWND data (there are technotes on this). There are ways to create temporary valid CWnd objects in worker threads but you need to know what you are doing when using that technique.

Re: When is CWnd valid?

charlieg4-Sep-07 6:05

4-Sep-07 6:05

sigh

Mike, let me be more specific. Given I need to create a window that is parented by another window. I actually need to do this with an activeX control, but I think the point is valid. And, thankfully, we're single threaded for this question.

I create my object that contains my first window. The constructor fires, and messages begin to be delivered. Eventually, a WM_PAINT arrives and some basic drawing code fills in the visual portion of the window. Things quiet down after the initial burst of events. Somewhere in that initial burst of events, the window for the object is actually valid, and IsWindow goes true.

Is it after WM_CREATE? WM_PAINT? Something in win32 or mfc sets that field....

Re: When is CWnd valid?

led mike4-Sep-07 11:54

led mike

4-Sep-07 11:54

charlieg wrote:
I actually need to do this with an activeX control

That is a whole different question. My Visual ActiveX experiences are few and old.

Windows message order?

charlieg4-Sep-07 3:26

4-Sep-07 3:26

Is there a published list of Windows events and the order they occur in? I've not been able to find one, which may mean I've overlooked something obvious. For example, I want to know every windows message that occurs when a simple dialog application launches and displays. Another example - I create an activeX control, I want to know each and every message that is sent to the control as it "activates".

Spy or the version mentioned on Winspector might provide a starting list, but I'm looking for something blessed by Microsoft.

Hamed Musavi4-Sep-07 5:50

Hamed Musavi

4-Sep-07 5:50

charlieg wrote:
I create an activeX control, I want to know each and every message that is sent to the control as it "activates".

There's a tool called 'ActiveX control test container' that will be installed as part of your Visual studio. Find it in start menu under vs tools.

For messages, I've learned them during development. I think this is basic Win32 programming or windows programming that you are looking for. Such things should be described in books about win32, or about windows in MSDN and I don't know a good exact source.

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charlieg4-Sep-07 5:56

4-Sep-07 5:56

Hamed,

I know about the test container, but what's your point? It doesn't really show me anything about events. Are you implying that I should use the debugger to catch the events?

As far as "learning from development", point taken, but I was hoping for a definitive list, thus sayeth MSDN (of course, you can't find it in msdn....). I've found that you can pick up bad assumptions and misunderstandings from test data.

chg

Hamed Musavi4-Sep-07 6:32

Hamed Musavi

4-Sep-07 6:32

charlieg wrote:
Are you implying that I should use the debugger to catch the events?

I didn't work a lot with activeXs but as much as I remember When I was testing my controls, I could see event's (perhaps only those that I handled or called 'Fire' for), even in release mode, in the big edit box at the bottom of the window. I'm sorry. I didn't read the text completely and thought you don't know about the tool at all. Blush | :O

charlieg wrote:
of course, you can't find it in msdn....

I'm not sure. Some times that's right, but first that I started programming it was my best friend. Articles like the following and even better ones that I can't find now, helped me a lot. You sure read them already and perhaps were useful to you too.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms632597.aspx[^]

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms632598.aspx[^]

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while (I'm_alive)
{
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}

Mark Salsbery4-Sep-07 6:15

Mark Salsbery

4-Sep-07 6:15

What messages are sent and in what order is subject to change.

There's no guarantee that it will be the same on different OS versions/builds.

You could peek at each message and log it fairly easily. You'll probably find that the messages
and the order they are sent in is pretty consistent. I've never seen anything that states you
can rely on this, however.

Mark

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charlieg4-Sep-07 6:33

4-Sep-07 6:33

Excellent comment Mark. So, if a developer cannot depend on the order of events, how then does one determine when a windows object is fully instantiated? Another thread says to use IsWindow() to determine when things are ready to go... but this would seem to me to be a bit of a polling solution.

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Mark Salsbery4-Sep-07 6:49

Mark Salsbery

4-Sep-07 6:49

charlieg wrote:
how then does one determine when a windows object is fully instantiated?

If you create a window yourself, then the returned HWND from the create API
is (obviously) valid.

*Sorry, I hit the Post message button LOL*

From the window proc's point of view, the effective lifetime of the window is from
WM_CREATE/WM_INITDIALOG to WM_NCDESTROY.

As far as documentation, you can kind of follow it from CreateWindow...

CreateWindow()
"Before returning, CreateWindow sends a WM_CREATE message to the window procedure."

WM_CREATE
"The window procedure of the new window receives this message after the window is created,
but before the window becomes visible."

WM_DESTROY
"It is sent to the window procedure of the window being destroyed after the window is removed
from the screen."
"During the processing of the message, it can be assumed that all child windows still exist."

WM_NCDESTROY
"The WM_NCDESTROY message is sent after the child windows have been destroyed. In contrast,
WM_DESTROY is sent before the child windows are destroyed."

Mark

Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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Ryu Jin4-Sep-07 3:21

Ryu Jin

4-Sep-07 3:21

hello,

I made my own browser by using CHtmlView,
and I would like to add some functions which are.....

1) I want to active focus to link which is the very first tab in red color.
2) if i press down Key which is in my keyboard, i would like to move
the active focus to next other link or check box ... etc. (similar to pressing Tab Key)
3) if i press up Key which is in my keyboard, i would like to move
the active focus to back to previous link or check box ...etc.
4) if i press right Key the current active focus link goes to it's other site.

to do these I reviewed the IHTML Interfaces...but couldn't found it.
so I would like to know the IHTML Interface and the method which will do the job
what i want...and I also want to know how could I call the IHTML Interface.

thanks for reading....please help~~~~

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Help - clistctrl drag image only showing icon, no text

Derrick Becker4-Sep-07 3:14

Derrick Becker

4-Sep-07 3:14

I am using a class derived from clistctrl. I am using the CreateDragImage function to create the image shown when dragging. My understanding is that this should create an image of both the icon displayed as well as the text for the particular item I am dragging, however all I am getting is the icon with no text. I am sure this has something to do with the fact that this is a derived class, but does anyone know any other workarounds for getting the text to display in the drag image?

Thanks,
Derrick

Re: Help - clistctrl drag image only showing icon, no text

Derrick Becker4-Sep-07 5:17

Derrick Becker

4-Sep-07 5:17

I dont know if I may have to manually create the bitmap image of the text and put that in the imagelist. If so does anyone know how to do that?

Please Help :( [modified]

Programm3r4-Sep-07 2:11

Programm3r

4-Sep-07 2:11

Hi all,

I'm making use of an ODBC class written by Carlos Antollini called 'A set of ODBC Classes'. The problem is that in my one function I create an instance of the class and connect to a database. Then I dissconnect. Then later on I start another funtion to perform some transactions of the database, but the I receive an error stating: Exception Message: External exception C0000008. I think it has something to do with the allocation of the environment handle. Because if I remove the first function call it works. But the later on, on a next call it fails again. It fails on this call:

ret = SQLDriverConnect(m_hDbc,
    hWnd,
    (SQLCHAR*)szConnStr,
    SQL_NTS,
    (SQLCHAR*)szConnStrOut,
    sizeof(szConnStrOut),
    &pcbConnStrOut,
    (SQLUSMALLINT)drvConn);

Can one assign more than one environment handle when creating more than one instance of the class???
Can anyone please help me.

Many thanks in advance
Regards,

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VC++ AND MS ACCESS connection

himuskanhere4-Sep-07 2:08

himuskanhere

4-Sep-07 2:08

Hey Friends i m new to database programming using VC++.
where do i find articles on MS ACCESS and vc++.

thanks in advance:

Re: VC++ AND MS ACCESS connection

chandu0044-Sep-07 2:30

chandu004

4-Sep-07 2:30

they are very much available in this codeproject as well as codeguru.com.

Re: VC++ AND MS ACCESS connection

Hamid_RT4-Sep-07 3:38

Hamid_RT

4-Sep-07 3:38

If you see Database section on the codeproject you see lot of articles about access,sql,oracle,...

How to terminate a thread?

kcynic4-Sep-07 0:52

kcynic

4-Sep-07 0:52

I created a thread using CreateThread,that I can get the ID of the thread.
I want to terminate the thread now.
I know I can use terminatethread to end it.
But it says that using that way is not a good method.
And I try to use PostThreadMessage(threadID,WM_QUIT,0,0),but the thread would not end!

Someone would like to tell me how to end the thread except using terminatethread?(And I did not use CWinThread).Thanks.

GOOD LUCK

Roger Stoltz4-Sep-07 1:02

Roger Stoltz

4-Sep-07 1:02

http://www.flounder.com/workerthreads.htm[^]

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kcynic4-Sep-07 1:15

kcynic

4-Sep-07 1:15

It really a excellent solution of terminating a thread.
But if we do not use MFC,how should do such thing?

Cedric Moonen4-Sep-07 1:25

Cedric Moonen

4-Sep-07 1:25

The solution explained there has nothing to do with MFC: you just use a flag that you set from another thread. In your thread loop, check for this flag end stop looping once it is set.

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