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Arthur9000006-May-21 20:35
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djenkins26047-May-21 4:03
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It really depends but to give some background, I am a self taught programmer that never finished college
and dropped out. I was a huge computer nerd growing up and learned 6502 assembly (Apple II), z80 assembly (TI-85), x86 assembly using MASM and TASM, basic, turbo pascal, turbo c and visual basic. That was just before I was out of High School. I was big in to hacking, cracking, boxing, phreaking and the allure of the darker side of technology long before the infamous Hacker movie of the 90's. Angelina used to be sooo hot, lol.

Fast forward to college and I was supremely bored. I was going for a network technologies degree and wanted a CS degree. I only made it two years. I eventually just stopped showing up for class except to ace the exams. I was already Microsoft Certified for some of the classes the teacher was teaching and often the teacher was asking me questions or I had to correct them. I was also working entry level positions at the time building pcs, installing networks, excel automation with vba and access, database and web development etc. Basically anything to get some field experience and make money while I was going to school.

There are generally two types of people. The ones who could care less and just want the degree and the ones that are actually interested in the material. More often than not the ones interested in the material already know a lot of the material but the classes still have to be designed to teach the people that just want the piece of paper. It really sucks for the motivated people who love technology but school is more about money and clout these days than actual academia.

To answer your question, six of one and half a dozen of the other. In some ways I wish I had the degree because I am very weak on things like Big O, Design Patterns and Unit Testing which are very important to some larger companies. On the other hand I can mop the floor with people when it comes to algorithms, debugging and cranking out solid code. I was DevOps before it was even a thing, mainly because necessity was the mother of invention. Because I did not have a degree, I usually ended up working for smaller businesses which meant lower pay and benefits and lower budgets for tools and hardware making the job more difficult. You really need to get creative to get the job done well.

Fast forward 20+ years and I feel like I am somewhat successful. It is definitely doable to make it without a degree if you have talent but it will be a more difficult path. It is a lot easier these days with how quickly technology is evolving. I make well over 100k a year, have great benefits but I work more in a management role now and don't get to program as much as I would like to.

Things to keep in mind:
1) A degree will open more doors for you and give you more options but it is not the end all and not having one will not necessarily keep you from being successful but it will take longer.
2) Be prepared to make less money than the idiots that have a degree. This is especially true starting out. It's less relevant once you get enough work experience and have references.
3) You are still going to have to work with and deal with those people and will still be expected to be a team player.

Personally, I feel like degree's are becoming less and less relevant as college gets more and more expensive and the fact you rarely end up using 75% of what you learn. I think more targeted learning that is more specific to job can be much more valuable. There is a point where paying back 100k to 150k or whatever you spend on College is not worth the extra salary your going to make until you get enough relevant work experience.
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