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jmaida wrote: Das did not have a keyboard that met my requirements. Wired keyboard.
Far as I can tell they do have wired keyboards.
Did you mean that there were other requirements besides but including wired that were not met?
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It's not the newest model Das, but it has one cable and two USB ports on the keyboard.
Das Keyboard 4 Pro
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It does have the specs I want.
A little pricey, though. Thanx.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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DasKeyboard is often hailed as one of the best keyboards around - why I have bought 3: 2xPro4 and 1x4Q.
And - what a disappointment!
The USB-wires on all 3(!) have had defects out of the box.
The built-in USB hub on 2 of the 3 keyboards are disconnecting and reconnecting accompanied with the Windows "disconnect" and "connect" sounds even with nothing attached.
Compared to Ducky or Topre my 3 DasKeyboards have been a major disappointment.
Nice keyboards with great features.
Very bad quality control.
Cannot recommend - and a no-buy from me.
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You're the first person I've heard of with issues like that, and I know several Das owners. Sorry you had that experience.
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Interesting that I'm apparently not the only one having issues.
I believe my problems are a combination of 3 things:
1) I suspect that the USB hub itself has some issues: I suspect power delivery but I'm not sure.
2) The USB cords themselves have some loose connections within. If I don't place them just right or accidentally move them the whole keyboard including any attached devices through the USB hub will disconnect. This is the main problem I have on my 2xPro4.
3) The USB plug on my 4Q came with a bent plug. I managed to bend it back into shape so I could use it - but it's not perfect.
In general, the USB hub on my 2xPro4 are basically useless - and I have been forced to retire 1 keyboard already because of this. And I am currently hoping that my favorite keyboard (Topre) comes back into production so I can retire my second Pro4.
I have had a lot(!!!) of keyboards through the years - and I have never had any issues out-of-the-box with any of them except DasKeyboard.
How and why did I end up with 3 then? Well, the 4Q was bought first - and although annoying with the bent USB plug - I got it working and thought that I just was unlucky.
The 2xPro4 was bought at the same time for business use with the USB Hub as a major selling point. I didn't notice the problems at first - and it took a little bit of time to figure out exactly which of many USB devices was disconnecting/reconnecting at random. I finally found USBDeview[^] which definitely pointed the blame at DasKeyboard.
I should of course have sent them back, but - well - couldn't be bothered with the hassle and just won't ever buy DasKeyboard again.
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Power could definitely be an issue as Das keyboards are USB 2.0 and more bandwidth than a regular keyboard due to NKRO and high scan frequency.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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honey the codewitch wrote: It's all about control.
But what about Alt, and Delete, and all the other keys...?
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No problem, I won't buy a Das keyboard
I am still happily using my 20+ year old Microsoft Natural Pro
Granted it is more of a bio hazard these days but its pretty much all my own dirt 
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I have three: one at home and two at work. Yes, multiple work desks...
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I have several, going back to the original with blank keys. They were a great alternative to the ubiquitous rubber-dome keyboards back then, but the world is full of mechanical keyboards now. There's nothing particularly special about Das these days.
These days I mostly use hot-swappable Keychrons, and customize them. At the end of the day, a mechanical keyboard is just a platform for switches and keycaps. It's the switches and keycaps that really matter.
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Having owned mechanical keyboards I don't agree with your assessment of Das.
Omron Gamma Zulu switches feel crisper to me than the Cherries I've tried.
The keycaps are mildly lit, which is a nice feature at night without being overbearing - they're not lit at the base, only the symbol itself.
And build quality matters. This keyboard doesn't flex.
It also has NKRO and individual scanning which is important for gamers and fast typists.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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I broke down week before last and ordered one based on your recommendation. Went back and forth on the 5QS and the 4Q, because I thought I wanted clickier keys. And the Amazon reviews are not great on the 5QS. But in the end I trusted you. It came in last Friday. Only had a chance to play with it for about 45 minutes since then, as I went out of town. Very nice! Feels like my typing sped up with it. For the fun of it I put it on 'cycle colors'. I wish you could slow down the transition speed. Picky, I know! 
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I'm glad you like it. I'd hate to think I gave a bad recommendation.
I still love my Das5QS. Don't care about the haters. 
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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As a follow-up - Yes, I fully love typing on this thing now! Part of me remembers the old IBM keyboards, and thinks they come close. But a larger part thinks I'm mis-remembering, because this keyboard absolutely rocks! Even though I'm not a fast keyboardist (~60 wpm), I feel faster on it. Thanks!
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Yup.
Bought mine in 2014. Wired, Cherry MX Brown switches. Love it. Kinda wish sometimes it'd wear out so I could buy buy a backlit model, but looks like I'll be using this one for a lot longer.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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But to be fair it will wear out someday. Like perhaps right in the middle of the day when you are trying to get the production system back up.
So buy a new one now and the old one then becomes your back up.
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greetings kind regards
may i please inquire re/ laptops i.e. is it necessary to utilize a hand held mouse or is the integral touch pad sufficient for coding . i have only ever utilized a desktop PC .
thank you kindly
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A touchpad is supposed to do the same things as a mouse, so you should be able to rely on it alone. However, I find them a real pain to use and greatly prefer a mouse.
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Same here. I hate using a laptop touchpad, because they always register false touches when I'm using the keyboard.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Sufficient, yes. Optimal? Well that depends. Where do you naturally rest your thumbs? Some people find that they're accidentally triggering mouse events because their thumbs make contact with the track-pad. If you're used to a separate mouse, you may find that its preferable to attach a mouse to your laptop. And maybe even disable the track-pad when a mouse is attached. That way if you want to take your laptop to the coffee shop and just hang out, you can just use the track-pad. If you're in space with a desk, you can pull out your mouse and get a more office-like experience.
But you'll have to try it and see. You may find you're comfortable with the built in track-pad. You may find you despise the thing and only use it when you absolutely have to.
Keep Calm and Carry On
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IMHO, it depends on the person.
Persons who like congested spaces feel themselves comfortable with a touchpad, and it's perfectly fine.
Persons who like larger spaces like the mouse, because it moves over a larger area on the table, and this is also perfectly fine.
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For me personally, a Touchpad is not an option.
But why you don't simply try it?
You have always the option to connect a mouse if you feel uncomfortable with the touchpad 
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I'm not a fan of them - I have one on my Surface but I try really hard to not have to use it. Fortunately, it's a touch screen, so most of the things you use a mouse for are fine without it.
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