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dan!sh wrote: gender is an behavioural attribute. Sex is anatomical attribute
Gender is anatomical, genetic, based on genes -- though it's more complex than that, it's not simply the X and Y chromosomes.
Sex is an act, a process for reproduction, which in humans requires an XX person and an XY person.
Sexuality (and Orientation) is behavior and attitudes (even in the absence of action).
dan!sh wrote: masculine or feminine
Are merely social norms and are flexible through time and space depending on the society. For the most part they are bullcrap and should be ignored, they're just another way the man tries to keep us down.
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dan!sh wrote: Gender could be masculine or feminine.
That's what it means now, because someone wanted to change it. And the two concepts are still extremely conflated because it's the sexes that act differently while also partaking in their gender - that the sex does in fact have a large influence over (generally speaking).
There have always been masculine chicks and feminine dudes. But, now they want to pretend they are the opposite "gender" as expressed by the opposite sex roles society traditionally embraced. This is called putting the cart before the horse, to honestly pretend that just because you cried while watching Titanic you're now actually the same as a real woman - since the two concepts are clearly conflated on both sides. No, you're just a feminine dude despite your new labels. Doesn't mean you get to pee in the women's bathroom.
What makes it worse is they're trying to legally force this pronoun stuff on others.
Jeremy Falcon
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Be very thankful if it is only the gender confused PC idjits that you have. Oz has a plague of them!
Aboriginals - now want to be called First Nations (they are neither first or a nation)
LBGT??? - are agravating for changes to anything gender related.
PC Justice system - apparently youth criminals should all be given another chance or more.
Our pollies are absolutely idjits who cave to the latest fashion, currently Aboriginal influence and the PC fools.
Aahhh will you NOT press that button - damn.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Another proxy for someone's personal issues. Like kids' beauty pageants. Hockey parents.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I don't see what's the big deal about an advisory that it inspired a rant. 
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More than just an advisory in some environments.
It's politically correct insanity.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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It was an advisory with some suggestions.
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It might be an advisory, but when people can get sued for lingual discrimination only because you used the generic term (THAT STILL IS IN THE OFFICIAL GRAMATIC)
or you get forced to write using the new idiotic forms to include all "genders" what actually makes technical documentation almost unreadable...
or...
or...
they are definitivelly not only suggestions.
Don't get me wrong, I do not defend the use of the masculine as generic. I would be equally happy writing a sentence at the beginning and saying "for readability we are going to use only the femenine across the whole document".
What bugs me is to have to use "Lerher(n):in-nen" to say "teachers" referring me to "teacher singular [m](plural [m]):singular(f)-plural(f)" = combination of "Lehrer, Lehrern, Lehrerin, Lehrerinnen" because to use the generic masculine form "Lehrern" to englobe all is discriminatory / sexist.
And yes, I have already got a document rejected due to not properly using "gendern", the german word to write that monstruosity that not even are "regulated. Some would write it as I did, others write it as "Lehrer_innen", others "Lehrern:innen"...
You read a sentence and have to remove al that crap mentally to get the actual sense of what you are reading.
In this case I envy english, the gramatic is way easier with mostly only one word for both and distinguising only between singular and plurar. You spare a big headache.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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modified 22-Sep-23 11:42am.
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I mean, being sued is different than this. I'm simply speaking to the advisory that was sent out. Not any legislation that would give legal teeth to such things. As far as I'm concerned, people are free to be thoughtless.
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0x01AA wrote: Switzerland
Other topic. I am now on a visit to some countries in Europe, with my wife. Today and tomorrow we are in Switzerland. Jungfrau trip today and on to St. Moritz tomorrow.
Yesterday we were in Rhine Falls boat ride. Beautiful country, very scenic and friendly people.
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Quote: and friendly people
You haven't met me yet 
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Same here in the UK. A recent communicatiom suggested the term "vagina" be replaced by "bonus hole". I despair of the idiots in charge.
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Seriously? That sounds like a frat boy expression 
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Gives you an idea of the level of intelligence of some of the idiots in charge over here.
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What is the bonus? 
Cheers,
Vikram.
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The idiots didn't bother to expalin it, assuming that the rest of the population was as stupid as them. 
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Maybe they don't want to describe it so explicitly in details.I mean the a- hole and the b- hole 
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: A recent communicatiom suggested the term "vagina" be replaced by "bonus hole
No it didn't. That was just what some media claimed it said.
The original source was stating that some people were using that term. It was not claiming it should be used instead. Similar to what the urban dictionary might do in providing a definition.
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Vagina rebranded as ‘bonus hole’ by cervical cancer charity[^]
Quote: A charity which advises medics to refer to a vagina as a “bonus hole” to avoid upsetting transgender men has been accused of dehumanising women.
Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust offers a guide on its website detailing the appropriate language healthcare professionals should use when dealing with trans men.
“Bonus hole” and “front hole” are deemed acceptable alternatives to vagina, a word which could “cause someone to feel hurt or distressed”, it states.
The advice features on a section of Jo’s website under the header “Language to use when supporting trans men and/or non-binary people”.
The glossary was created in partnership with the LGBT Foundation.
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That would of course be one of those media outlets claiming that.
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You are claiming that the 'Telegraph' is not in fact a media source but rather is the original source?
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I am not claiming anything.
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Then repeating what I said...
"That would of course be one of those media outlets claiming that."
Especially with the Telegraph no one should read anything there without skepticism or even outright disbelief.
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