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RickZeeland18-Apr-20 2:53

RickZeeland

18-Apr-20 2:53

I only have a Useless box[^] Sigh | :sigh:

Mark_Wallace18-Apr-20 17:19

Mark_Wallace

18-Apr-20 17:19

I also have a box full of useless st*ff.

It's called my house.

[edited for kid-sister safeness[^]]

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

modified 19-Apr-20 3:49am.

dandy7220-Apr-20 5:15

dandy72

20-Apr-20 5:15

Mark_Wallace wrote:
It's called my house.

George Carlin, A Place for my Stuff. A classic.

Chris Maunder20-Apr-20 7:46

Chris Maunder

20-Apr-20 7:46

And here we are - still making the same bad jokes so many years later.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Do not escape reality : improve reality !

Rage20-Apr-20 21:18

Rage

20-Apr-20 21:18

Which is why I am still here.
But I do own y part of my thesis to Nish, Christian Graus, toxcct, Chris losinger, ... and of course to you for that awesome website. Cool | :cool:

A good "pure" Javascript 'language' tutorial

Nand3217-Apr-20 22:35

17-Apr-20 22:35

Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ?
Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web.

For example W3Schools:

function myFunction() {
  document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
  document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
}

oh, no "document." stuff D'Oh! | :doh:

That confuses the kids.

I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node.
But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly.
Not much of JS fundamentals.

Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way.
Just data structures and fundamentals.

This is for my cousin btw.

OriginalGriff17-Apr-20 22:55

OriginalGriff

17-Apr-20 22:55

Nand32 wrote:
This is for my cousin btw.

Yeah, yeah - they all say that when they start to turn to the Dark Side ... Laugh | :laugh:

"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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CodeWraith17-Apr-20 23:31

17-Apr-20 23:31

JS is more the Dumb Side of the Force. I am on the Dark Side and like it, but would not touch JS without gloves or perhaps better a complete protective suit.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

OriginalGriff17-Apr-20 23:43

OriginalGriff

17-Apr-20 23:43

Are you mad? Where the heck are you going to get enough PPE to protect you from JS? Laugh | :laugh:

"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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CodeWraith18-Apr-20 0:07

18-Apr-20 0:07

I just have to ask my former employer. They had me running around in such a suit an entire summer long, measuring radiation, decontaminating trucks and other such nice activities.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

OriginalGriff18-Apr-20 1:07

OriginalGriff

18-Apr-20 1:07

Don't forget the welding mask - JS enters through the eyes, and contaminates the soul ...

"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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CodeWraith18-Apr-20 3:37

18-Apr-20 3:37

So that's why some of the the raiders wear welding goggles, even at night! Damn! Now you have brought me to dig out that game again. Skyrimk with guns. With a new character. Little Mary Sue has just found that old power armor suit plus minigun and given the raisers what they deserve. Power armor protects you from everything: Fallout 4 Power Armor vs Raiders - YouTube[^]

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

Nand3218-Apr-20 1:11

18-Apr-20 1:11

OriginalGriff wrote:
Yeah, yeah - they all say that when they start to turn to the Dark Side ..

You mean back to coding the dark screen CLI ? Poke tongue | ;-P

Hehe, my cousin wanted to escape programming and wanted to pursue management degree. But because of the lockdown things changed and now he's desperate for any job. What we have mostly is technical jobs with low pay. So he's gonna learn the stuff.

Amarnath S17-Apr-20 22:57

Amarnath S

17-Apr-20 22:57

There was one on Microsoft Virtual Academy, taught by Bob Tabor, which taught Javascript using just the Visual Studio Code console, without the need to open a web-page. 30 or 31 videos in all. Not finding them online now. Have downloaded all those videos and they are on my hard disk (downloaded sometime in 2018).

Check if you can find these videos by Bob Tabor on Javascript.

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Got these videos - Beginner's guide to JavaScript Fundamentals By Bob Tabor - YouTube[^]

modified 18-Apr-20 7:14am.

Nand3218-Apr-20 1:25

18-Apr-20 1:25

Great

thank you.

CodeWraith17-Apr-20 23:28

17-Apr-20 23:28

Nand32 wrote:
This is for my cousin btw

I'm also not speaking for myself, but my uncle's butler thinks that JS just as bad a habit as good old BASIC or PHP were. Smile | :)

To answer your question: Just like BASIC or PHP, pure JS has only very underdeveloped I/O capabilities and needs its libraries and frameworks to actually do something without bloating up the code samples to enormous size. Especially those who the samples are written for might not see the forest for all the trees. Only to replace the forest with a nice big swamp of frameworks Smile | :)

. I'm certainly no friend of JS, but I think you may be out of luck here.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

Nand3218-Apr-20 1:24

18-Apr-20 1:24

I searched for a core JS tutorial for a while, I couldn't find so I asked him to start with Python for now. Though my preference would have been C to start with.

Python is more famed so he's starting with it and the idea is to compare each code exercise with JS equivalent.

CodeWraith18-Apr-20 2:01

18-Apr-20 2:01

C always is a good choice. Unfortunately both my C compiler and the emulator can't keep up with the hardware I have been building, so I'm roughing it with assembly.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

Peter Adam19-Apr-20 23:29

Peter Adam

19-Apr-20 23:29

Ahh, the elaborated language-embedded I/O functions of the Advanced Languages like C, C++ and Pascal in my childhood. Just put a red A letter to the second column of the second row from the top...

Also, for a true language integrated query go for Foxpro's scatter/gather commands instead...

bryanren20-Apr-20 9:43

bryanren

20-Apr-20 9:43

scatter/gather - I have not seen (used) that in a long time.
I recently referred to zap & pack with one of our DBA types - no, they did not know whence it came, are but children.

Sander Rossel17-Apr-20 23:31

Sander Rossel

17-Apr-20 23:31

Personally, I learned JavaScript from JavaScript Succinctly[^] (and then applying it in my job).
Back in the day you needed to create a (free) Syncfusion account to download the books.
I think you can read it all online without an account now.
They have a similar book on Node.js: Node.js Succinctly[^].
What I like about the succinctly series is that they are, well, succinct.
About 100 pages a book, but often less.
If you do decide to create an account and give them your real phone number, they do call you for marketing purposes although I've never found them to be annoying or pushy.
I gave them my real phone number because I write for them as well so they'd know I'm lying anyway Laugh | :laugh:

Then there's Learning JavaScript Essentials by Addy Osmani[^].
Another free ebook (no registration required) explaining common patterns in JavaScript.
It's a long read and you won't need a lot of it, but I'd recommend checking out the Constructor pattern, Module pattern, Revealing Module pattern, the AMD and CommonJS patterns and the JavaScript Namespacing patterns.
Those are very much used patterns and I've found them to make the difference between a good and a bad JavaScript programmer.

Best,
Sander

sanderrossel.com
Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure
arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

Nand3218-Apr-20 1:22

18-Apr-20 1:22

Wow Great info there. Thanks bro Thumbs Up | :thumbsup: