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Do you get paid overtime?   [Edit]

Survey period: 18 Aug 2008 to 25 Aug 2008

Regardless of how much planning you do, emergencies do happen. Do you put in the extra hours or let the managers worry about the deadlines? (suggested by Graham Downs)

OptionVotes% 
Yes, I get a strict overtime rate24116.11
Not "officially", but we get bonuses from time to time to thank us for overtime worked15610.43
No. We're often expected to work overtime, but never get paid extra46030.75
No. I sometimes work overtime, but it's my own choice to do so, and I don't get paid extra53936.03
I don't work overtime. Ever.1006.68



 
GeneralOvertime ? Pin
Steven J. Ackerman 125-Aug-08 8:52
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GeneralRe: Overtime ? Pin
John Kawakami19-May-09 7:45
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GeneralPaid to get something done Pin
Netblue24-Aug-08 3:55
Netblue24-Aug-08 3:55 
GeneralConsider these two scenarios Pin
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.22-Aug-08 8:23
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.22-Aug-08 8:23 
GeneralOver Time in Gulf Pin
Rehan Ahmad Abbasi20-Aug-08 23:37
Rehan Ahmad Abbasi20-Aug-08 23:37 
GeneralNo pay, no way... Pin
R. Giskard Reventlov20-Aug-08 3:18
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GeneralRe: No pay, no way... Pin
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar20-Aug-08 6:07
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GeneralRe: No pay, no way... Pin
Sawyer Liu20-Aug-08 18:11
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Nagy Vilmos21-Aug-08 1:14
professionalNagy Vilmos21-Aug-08 1:14 
AnswerMy overtime is paid in leave. Pin
MatthysDT19-Aug-08 23:40
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GeneralRe: My overtime is paid in leave. Pin
eggsovereasy20-Aug-08 4:17
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GeneralRe: My overtime is paid in leave. Pin
Sawyer Liu20-Aug-08 18:14
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GeneralRe: My overtime is paid in leave. Pin
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar21-Aug-08 6:26
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GeneralThe PMs plan astronomical goals to the management ... Pin
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar19-Aug-08 17:14
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John Kawakami19-May-09 7:49
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GeneralSalaried Pin
Corporal Agarn19-Aug-08 8:18
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QuestionSurvey period: 18 Aug 2008 to 25 Aug 2008 Pin
hfrmobile19-Aug-08 2:21
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Fred Sawtelle19-Aug-08 4:46
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hfrmobile19-Aug-08 5:39
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John M. Drescher20-Aug-08 17:23
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hfrmobile21-Aug-08 0:00
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GeneralFederal Model (USA) Pin
W Balboos, GHB19-Aug-08 2:19
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GeneralContractor: I Work Therefore I Bill - (Sort of) Pin
W Balboos, GHB19-Aug-08 1:58
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GeneralIt depends whos reputation is on the line Pin
HowardBray18-Aug-08 23:08
HowardBray18-Aug-08 23:08 
GeneralSlavery isn't dead... Flexible working time is one answer. Pin
drldev18-Aug-08 21:53
drldev18-Aug-08 21:53 
If I had been paid for all the overtime I've put in I might well have a house as nice as my employer. That irks me if I think about it so I try not to think about it.

It's my fault but I do the extra work through necessity (like just about everyone else on codeproject) and because I have to pay the bills, however, I'm changing my job this September and going to work for a company where the hours are 35 per week. I will also be working flexitime so what I now call overtime will just be taken out of my weekly work requirement.

I think flexible working hours can be a partial answer to this problem of expecting IT bods to work till they drop. If one has to work out of hours because there's no other practical time to do something then knowing one can legitimately take the next morning off makes a big difference and goes a long way to removing stress caused by annoyance and others bad judgement.

Companies are run in a very immature way generally, with back biting, one upmanship, seeing who can squeeze the most out of their subordinates etc, and all these things at the cost of someone. That someone being more often than not you and me.

I would love to see the entire IT community simply refuse to do unpaid overtime. Unpaid work happens because of bad planning, bad targets, bad management and badly trained developers. All of these problems are curable!

Any company that makes no effort to be realistic when quoting for work is signing away your personal life and possibly your health too, and the bad news is that this happens all of the time. You know it. I know it. Are you someone who craves to keep up with developments but your company is stuck in the stone age? That's incredibly stressful and leads you to devalue your own worth and abilities. It also ties you into their draconian life style. Retrain, leave.

Yes the market is tough, but who trusts a company to deliver if they quoted a ridiculously short or cheap project cost? You and I know that they'll lose their developers like leaves blowing away in autumn, and a project that doesn't have consistent developers is either going to be an unmaintainable rats nest or simply fail.

It isn't rocket science, it's just a matter of you and I suffering the consequences of someone elses untruths.

Slavery is not dead, but how much of that "employer owns you body and soul" attitude are you willing to put up with?

Ah, we're all too professional to make waves, me included! So we just steadily migrate between jobs looking for the one that causes the least pain...

Maybe the answer is for us to start a database of "good" employers, with reasons why we think they are. If there was an award for a "Top Employer" that they could stick on their website, wouldn't that be a nice carrot? Mind you, they would be inundated with CVs!

Cheers all. Good luck.

Dave
Software Developer

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