|The whining about the main-stream media is a crock.
Right after the 2004 election, it came out the US Troops in Iraq had to go to junk-yards to get armor for their un-armored vehicles. Others used there own money to buy metal plates from Germany. This wasn't a secret - but it never appeared in the papers BEFORE the election. How would the (empty) rhetoric of the Shrub and his gang about supporting our troops looked if this came out before the election? How would it have affected votes - Why didn't the media report this if they were so liberal?
And again, until the 1000th coffin came back to the US, and a contract work sent in a secretly taken photo, the fallen US troops were not returned with honor for serving their country, but brought in like theives in the night (literally), and hidden from public knowledge. If the press was so liberal, they would have pounced all over it. Instead (at the cost of her job), it had to be broken first on the internet.
And the roaring silence about how Dubya and his gang had been closing Vet's hospitals while the need has increased.
And, of course - let's not forget Radio Talk Shows - these guys virtually goose-step for the GOP.
The above, by the way, don't require evaluation by 'organizations' for there liberal or conservative leanings; no need to pay someone to find the results you want; they speak for themselves.
The low approval rating you speak of - carefully labeling it a Democratic congress as though thats when the low ratings began. Sorry, spunky - they always rate extremely low. The problem with the surveys and polls? These people don't include there own - who they generally reelect.
In other words - another garbage statistic.
On the other hand, the distaste for W and his gang? How is that different? Because these are the same polls that gave him huge approval ratings in the past - That is until the truth finally started to come out and no longer ignored.
As for the other troops in Iraq (that haven't been brought home yet). You'll find that few are in combat rolls (For all practical purposes, its the US and GB). And, of course,
<blockquote class="FQ"><div class="FQA">Jim (SS) wrote:</div> Also, killings in Iraq are down to about what they are in city of Detroit.</blockquote>
The absurdity of this statistic borders on obscene - reminds me of McCains talking about how safe it was to walk in a Bagdhad market, also giving an favorable comparison to shopping in the US - carefully leaving out that he was surrounded by troops and helicopter air cover. Maybe that is how he shops.
Jim (SS) wrote:Is it possible there has been some amount of success?
The success, very sadly, is at the whim of the insurgency - if they want to set off bomb, they will - and still do. If they halt or slow down for a while - it may be the troops, but it's far more likely they are doing it to steer political opinions and decisions. IF things are better, we should be able to stop bribing Iraqi insurgents to fight other insurgents - they'll do it because they love their country. Better; consider just how long it will take for a civil war to start if the US/GB pull out. Things there are just great!
Benjamin Disraeli said before the British pariliament: 'Gentlemen, there are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.' Had he met a US Republican, he'd have had to find a fourth level for political deception.
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