I own a number of PCs and I work for an organization that has about 500 PCs in use. Not one of my computers, and only a half dozen of my employers is able to use Vista. It is just too big, too bloated and too slow to be of use to me or to my employer. Although the cost of hardware has dropped significantly, replacing all those systems with ones capable of reasonable Vista performance is way outside of the budget. Sometimes, I half believe that Microsoft is in collusion with the hardware manufactures and system builders to raise money by forcing hardware replacement just to be able to run a more secure operating system.
Personally, some of the hardware I am running cannot run any version of Windows newer that Windows 98. They work, they do their job (off of the Internet, of course). Upgrading is just a waste of money.
So don't upgrade.
Microsoft designed Vista with new technologies in mind so that they could improve performance. Naturally this actually requires the new technologies to work properly. If your machines are that old, then don't expect Ms to keep supporting them. If Ms held back on the resource consumption, they would lose to their competitors due to the lack of new features. Let's face it, aero, indexing, and readyboost are all designed to provide a better experience by consuming more resources. I agree that some programs are bloated (e.g. IE7 - especially in comparison to Chrome), but overall Vista is better than XP on the computers it was designed for. The only major mistake Ms made with Vista was reducing the minimum requirements - 800 MHz and 512 MB RAM are laughable. I wouldn't consider running Vista with anything less than 1 GB, and would recommend 2 GB, since performance with Vista really seems to scale with RAM. 800 MHz is a joke as well - once again, doubling the recommended 1 GHz provides a decent performance (especially with a dual core). And for the record, don't bother considering an OS without all of the latest SPs - its just incomplete without them. Vista is pretty good on a decent system with SP1.
Firm bought me HP Compaq 8710p, with Vista Ultimate.
I spent 3 days installing VS 2005, SQL Server 2005 & other dominantly MS
System crashed twice during instalations, returning me to the start (recovery).
I have installed XP SP2, and I am happy
I DO have job to do other than installing, reinstalling anf fixing OS,
there are enough problems with our own code , I don't want
to spend time google-ing about fixes, bugs etc...
I'm not using Vista myself right now (XP/SP3 is fine on all my boxes). However my daughter's ThinkPad died so I bought her a new laptop. (A Gateway). Got it for < $500 at Best Buy. Geez - the box was configured stock with 4GB of main. Still ... it was pre-loaded with Vista SP1 (64-bit) and seems to work fine. Connected up with my home LAN right away, runs all the stuff we already have (Office 2003, etc) - she's happy as a clam. Nice little box that Gateway; if I needed a laptop I'd buy one for myself, plenty of power.
I would *not* upgrade an existing XP/SP3 installation to Vista at this point - but on a box designed to run it I see no problem with it now - works very well.
"Vista is crap because our hardware is too far outdated to run it"
Believe me, Microsoft doesn't want you running vista on your outdated machines either. You won't be happy with it. If your business runs fine on old machines then great, keep using it. When you are ready to upgrade, buy the hardware to run it.
Overall I'm very happy with Vista. Enough so that when I go to use my old XP machine at home, I'm underwhelmed.
Yes vista has higher system requirements than XP. It has a lot more stuff happening in the background. You can disable that stuff if you wish your OS to behave more like XP.
One thing I have definitely found is the performance of vista scales with CPU and/or memory pressure MUCH more nicely than XP. With nothing open, everything in xp is instant. In vista things seem a little more leisurely, which no doubt causes some of the vista bashing.
But open a few instances of visual studio, outlook, word, excel and the rest and vista will hardly break out a sweat while XP will struggle.
Pre-SP1 vista was indeed fairly flaky though. I nearly went back to XP before sp1 came out.
I'm not an idiot, so OSX annoys me. I don't like command line 100% of the time, and I'm not too found of the crap Nix calls a GUI (in it's various flavours), so Nix is out. Vista is far better than XP and most of what people say about it is just BS.
Yeah, stuff just working out of the box without people having to meddle with it but still allowing for geeks to customize the tar out of it must really be badgering. Sorry you have to endure such harshness should you choose to use an advanced OS that Microsoft copies off of left and right.
One thing I have definitely found is the performance of vista scales with CPU and/or memory pressure MUCH more nicely than XP
Hands-down agree there. I was diagnosing random BSODs on my mom's laptop this weekend; turns out it was a bad stick of memory. When I pulled one stick out and rebooted (going from two gigs down to one), Vista didn't even flinch, apart from the unavoidable slight slowdown from cutting your available memory in half.
I'm still waiting for 7 to come out, though. Has anyone heard a definite date that they're going to start the public beta testing?
“Acer, Gateway, and eMachines are the same company now. Great! Now we just need a really big toilet, and we can get rid of all three at once.”
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