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I'm not sure that's Hall of Shame worthy, seems like quite an understandable mistake to me! (Particularly as the 'commented out' code probably shows in green in your IDE ...)
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BobJanova wrote: I'm not sure that's Hall of Shame worthy, seems like quite an understandable mistake to me! (Particularly as the 'commented out' code probably shows in green in your IDE ...)
I agree. In addition, this can be a good post to the Tip/Trick section.
Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment. Barry LePatner
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Philippe Mori
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Well me and three other students develop a c# project as an exercise from University. We have been successfuly pushing it forward, spending about 3-4 hours a week on coding in a spare time. So far so good. Recently me and other colleague realized that one guy couldn't finish a simple task -- generate a PDF with a single table filled with data. Also, he has commited a code which didn't even compile, making some trouble for others. Now the punchline incoming. It came out that he:
1. has never coded C# before (Ruby is a preferred language for business apps so why bother with some MS sh*t)
2. hadn't use any C# compiler or installed any IDE (despite we have VS 2010 Ultimate from MSDNAA)
3. coded everything off-line and commited hoping that somebody would finally compile it and tell him that there were compilation errors.
4. did't use Windows. OK, but since we develop an app which target platform is Windows...
Ah -- and it's a 4th year of studying computer science. I feel like I missed something. 
Greetings - Jacek
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ah you got some of my old classmates I see, cant really do anything since they didn't bother to learn anything, and try to skate by on a team which is to nice to rat them out. oops, boy were they wrong about me on that part 
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning.
A graduation ceremony is an event where the commencement speaker tells thousands of students dressed in identical caps and gowns that 'individuality' is the key to success
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gavindon wrote: nd try to skate by on a team which is to nice to rat them out
This isn't a case. He is full of a good will but he just does it wrong. And we like what we do so it doesn't really matter.
Greetings - Jacek
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Just a stupid question: what does he expect to happen? It's not aq question for your team-members, just for him... I'm really curios about the answer...
(yes|no|maybe)*
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s_mon wrote: Just a stupid question: what does he expect to happen? It's not aq question for your team-members, just for him... I'm really curios about the answer...
If I remember I will ask this question. The answer will probably be "I don't know", though.
Greetings - Jacek
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 that would the perfect start for me to do the "interrogation"... 
(yes|no|maybe)*
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I did ask the question. The answer was silence (embarassed? irritated? hard to say)... Unfortunately there wasn't any way to apply some tortures.
Greetings - Jacek
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Even silence could be used  but I guess, the mentioned embarassment was enough... hopefully to trigger a thought-process
(yes|no|maybe)*
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What did his code look like?
I would be kinda impressed if what a C# newbie wrote without an IDE is still okay code 
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At the beginning of the file he wrote a manual how to use his class. Sth like: "You just set static fields to configure a thing and then invoke the X method, and then the PDF document will be written to file Y".
Greetings - Jacek
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Jacek Gajek wrote: spending about 3-4 hours a week
Im a second year and we would spend around 8 - 16 hours a week...
You find that spending more time early on makes any team issue come out sooner than you think 
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T'was approximate. I'm sure it was more, at least in my case (an algorithm implementation).
Greetings - Jacek
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Sounds like a regular nerd to me. probably a guru on linux or python or whatnot, so he doesn't expect much from the class/project and expects the "people who actually need to learn" to do the work, because he, if he really tried, would do the stuff in a snap.
I used to have a manager for our software team who is actually guru contributor on linux that didn't do squat for the team, coding was in PHP and very simple stuff, ended up killing the whole project.
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fuximus wrote: didn't do squat for the team
What does it mean? [it makes no sense if literally translated so it must be an idiom]
Greetings - Jacek
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he didn't do anything for the team
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In Poland we say: "He has put a dick on the team".
Greetings - Jacek
modified on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:55 PM
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This is a similar situation to my undergrad life. There was a guy in my class that couldn't code to save his own life. He got me to write his stuff and one day he says "do you think what we are doing is wrong?" I said "nope ... I'm learning ... and you are giving me more ways to learn by letting me write your stuff. You will either learn it now, learn it later, or get fired later." He installs software for a living now.
Brad Barnhill
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Brad Barnhill wrote: He installs software for a living now
"for a living"?
Greetings - Jacek
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dear sir! I am not getting my queries fulfilled. i am not getting my relevant solutions to my queries. i require best programming code according to my topic.
thanks for your immediate feedback but i can't my relevant solutions.
Kindly sir! i request you to provide simple programming codes in 'c' & other topic if i required.
Very Very Thanks......
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I guess that your question is too perfect to give a satisffactory answer.
Greetings - Jacek
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tusharkaushik wrote: i require
I think that is your biggest mistake. Not one person here is required to answer a dang thing that you ask. I read your original questions and the responses to them. You did not do one thing to help yourself you simply demanded code for something that is easily research-able by any reasonable programmer/student. If you had shown code showing what you had tried and why it did not work, you might have gotten much better replies.
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning.
A graduation ceremony is an event where the commencement speaker tells thousands of students dressed in identical caps and gowns that 'individuality' is the key to success
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Three things:
1) This is not a good place to put this: as it says at the top of the Forum "a place to post examples of Coding Horrors and Worst Practices"
2) I just had a look at your queries. They have both been answered, but there is nothing there you could not have found easily yourself by either A) using google or B) attending your lectures. Preferably both.
3) Don't get demanding. We don't get paid for this, we do it because we want to share our knowledge. If you start in with "attitude" you will annoy people and reduce your chances of a useful answer.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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