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From "Professional Active Server Pages 3.0".
In ASP 3.0 and IIS 5.0 we can avoid the need to use client-side redirection with 2 method : Execute and Transfer.They cause control to be passed immediately to another page which can be an ASP script page or something else.
The difference between them is that Execute method 'calls' the other page, much like we call a subroutine. When the other page or resource has completed execution or streaming to the client, control pass back to the statement following the call to the Execute method in the original page, and execution continues from there. When we use the Transfer method, control does not pass back to the original page, and execution stops at the end of the page or resource we trasnferred control to.
Hope it can be useful.
Michela
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Thanks Michela,
However, Transfer displays the current url and Execute won't work on fully qualified urls. Therefore, I went with the frameset idea.
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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What are the differences between IIS and Personal Web Server? Can you host a site using PWS or does it impose limitations on you? Could people outside of your network or your own machine view your webpages as easily with either one?
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Think of PWS as Wordpad - comes free with Windows, you can write your basic letter, and even the possibility of professional documents. However, this isn't what it was made for. Think of IIS as Word. It's a professional tool. Although, it does come free with XP Pro now. Note that it doesn't come with XP Home, and PWS also won't run on XP Home.
PWS is fine for testing your own stuff (although it can be a pig to get working sometimes). And people will be able to view your site if it is hosted on PWS, although it would be interesting to see how much traffic it could handle (I've never hosted anything live on it, sorry). IIS is for professional hosting if you are expecting a lot of hits.
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'.....
- Christian Graus on Code Project outages
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anonymous wrote:
What are the differences between IIS and Personal Web Server?
I ithink the reason for me as a developer it that I can host multiple sites (different port numbers, or ip addresses) off my machine.  Where with PWS you have one site with multiple virtual directories that act as sites (same ip. different folders). 
If you have the choice use 2000 Server. It runs most games now days, and you can turn off the rest of the features you dont want to use.
Hope this helps,
Joan
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put it this way - it's incredibly easy to do things like access the c:\ drive of a machine with PWS installed. Microsoft may have fixed it with later versions, but I managed to remotely crash a friend's 98 machine when he was testing AWS on it, using the con\con trick 
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Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Hi....
I have some problem with include files....
My site has many sub, sub-subdirectories like.. /home has sub-directories that looks like /home/1, /home/2, /home/3
And /home/1, /home/2, /home/3 has its own sub-directories that looks as /home/1/1a, /home/1/1b, /home/2/2a, /home/2/2b, /home/2/2c, /home/3/3a, /home/3/3b etc.
I try to include a file @ /home/include/ from the .asp file in the /home/2/2a directory. It loads fine and works good. When I click a link from that file (now I am in /home/2/2a) for a file @ /home/. It displays 404-file not found error.
I tried this with <include file=""> and also <include virtual=""> methods. But both gives me problem. Any suggestion please.....
- SPS
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SPS wrote:
When I click a link from that file (now I am in /home/2/2a) for a file @ /home/. It displays 404-file not found error.
Ok I am not sure what the include files have to do with 404 errors but here is some info which may help.
HTML includes a very helpful element: <base href="" />
Basically what it does is tell the browser that all relative URLs are to be prefixed with the value of the href attribute.
So I could have the following HTML:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<base href="http://www.notinkansas.com/" />
</head>
<body>
<a href="about.htm"><img src="res/img/test.png" /></a>
</body>
</html>
You could place that HTML file in any sub-directory of notinkansas.com but the IMG and A elements will find the right file.
Just be careful though as it screws ASP.NET forms up and you have to use some JavaScript to sort it out.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Colin Davies wrote:
...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
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Paul Watson wrote:
relative URLs
This is comething I guessed. And, will give a try.
If that thing doesnt seem to be a good solution.. I will have to re-organize and remove the subdirectories... as it has very few files in them right now.
Thanks..
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I designed my site with 3 frames page. One as a banner, one for left navigation, one as the main content page.
Finally, my left navigation got biger and.... there are two scroll bars in my site. I need to remove the scroll bar. I wanna remove it...
Any simple proceess for it????
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 Yeah, get rid of the frames;).
Generally speaking, frames are deriled in web development these days. There are better technologies to do what you are looking for, that will do the same thing better, easier and allow for better expansion and extensibility of your site.
They are also not complaint with the modern HTML standards.
Try looking at using tables to do what you want. Table design for a web page is more complicated than using frames, but it's easier to expand and modify than using frames. Plus you get back more screen area, which is always valuable.
If you want something that is really cool, look at using CSS ( Cascading Style Sheets ). You can do some amazing things with them, assuming your users have a compatible browser ( IE 5.5 or better, Mozilla 1.2 or better, Opera 6 ).
Yes, you may face a learning curve with all this, but you will be so much better off in the long run.
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Yeah.... CSS is what I am planning to migrate to, and I thought of giving a chance of survival with the existing frames, like synchronising two frames (?!?!) and get my job done in few minutes. I know its going to be days,, if I need to put all the pages into the tables....
Thanks for the advice...
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You can sync between different frames, but your looking at some complex JavaScript to do it. With CSS and compliant HTML code there is still some JavaScript involved, but it's no where near as complex.
You may want to start simple. Maybe move one of the frames over to the table, and then the other. You will need to get the feel for using tables to do what you need to do.
Also, if you are using a webserver such as Apache or IIS 4.0+, consider using SSI ( Server Side Includes ) to help ease layout and consistancy (sp?) issues. But don't worry about that until you get a design that your users are comfortable with.
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Thanks.... finally.... I will be moving to CSS.. for time being, I am trying to adjust with the existing frames stuff....
Thanks for the reply
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Will have a look at that....
Thanks for the LINK....
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ian mariano wrote:
Actually, Framesets are a modern HTML standard: HTML4.01 - 16 Frames[^] and XHTML 1.0[^]
Frames have been dropped from XHTML 2.0 and even in XHTML 1.0 the W3C recommends not using them.
They only kept them in XHTML 1.0 to ensure older sites encoded using frames have a chance to re-code.
Frames are bad in 99% of cases.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Colin Davies wrote:
...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
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Hmmm... Have almost got my site outa frames..... Will join the group to tell that ...
Paul Watson wrote:
Frames are bad in 99% of cases
- SPS
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Actually, they are part of XHTML 2.0[^], but as XFrames, to quote the current draft: "XFrames not published yet - We need a reference to XFrames here, but XFrames is not yet public."
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ian mariano wrote:
Actually, they are part of XHTML 2.0[^], but as XFrames
LOL well exactly, Frames as in the Frames we know and lo.. hate are not part of XHTML 2.0.
From what I have read, XFrames intends to retain the good parts of Frames and get rid of the horrible parts of Frames, like URLs etc.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Colin Davies wrote:
...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
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Add this
<frame src="left.html" name="leftside" scrolling=no>
to your frame tag. As was said above though, tables are much easier, but I guess this is kind of late advice if you have already finished your page. For next time or upgrade though:
<table><br />
<tr><br />
<br />
<td> I am your left frame</td><br />
<br />
<td> I am your middle frame</td><br />
<br />
<td> I am your right frame</td><br />
<br />
</tr><br />
</table>
As you can see, you can put whatever you like inside this table framework. Other tables, menu's, etc. For an example check out www.lowveldinfo.com[^] - we built it using tables this way.
HTH 
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'.....
- Christian Graus on Code Project outages
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Megan Forbes wrote:
scrolling=no
This doesnt work properly if a frame has more content (vertically). Those contents goes away.... I mean those are chopped off.
Thanks for ur reply...
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May be you forgot to mention that the table technique you detail implies you use some server scripting technologies to manage the table content logic, essentially refreshing the whole page for each click. Unlike frame sets.
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Phew.... I got a small point to justify why I used frame-sets....
.S.Rod. wrote:
It saves server time
It saves server time
Thanks...
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Hi All,
I have created an ODBC connection called 'Reports'. In my asp page, I want to call Crystal report to view the data via ODBC 'reports '.
My code is:
' Set the location
set mytable = session("myReport").Database.Tables.Item(1)
mytable.SetLogonInfo "reports", "Testing", "username", "password".
I am calling 'report' the ODBC connection to connect the database and its not doing what its should be. Don't worry about the Crystal report. I just need to know how the odbc connection works in terms of asp pages.Please can anybody help, how to call odbc in order to work this functionality !!! I will be most greatful..
Bravo Two Zero
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