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The poor, misunderstood innerText — Perfection Kills[^]
I knew there were differences, but not that many differences. This amount of spelunking for one single API just illustrates how messed up things are, and the extent to which web developers protect us, the reader, from the vagaries of web browsers.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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It makes me so glad that I don't do webby things these days!
The completely unnecessary profusion of browsers combined with the general grubbiness of HTML/CSS and the 24 carat filth that is Javascript - it's not a world that I'd ever want to go back to.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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It is insanely better than it was even 10 years ago.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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10 years ago, the bar was also set much, much lower. Optimized for internet explorer at 800*600.
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I patently disagree. I'd say that as the web has gained acceptance as a first-class commercial platform the standards have slipped, not the other way around.
You also were forced to do a TON of stuff in JS (with browser checks, of course) that are now part of HTML5/CSS. Weak devs made weak pages, and it showed. Now anyone can throw bootstrap at a site and make it look professional.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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That was an eye opening article. I didn't know most of those differences either.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Yeah, you sure are on to something. What normal person would voluntarily work with any kind of programming? 
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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This is why I ran away from web development years ago and never looked back. Mind you that was back in the Web 1.0 era, but it really sucked back then because the development tools were all half-baked, no APIs wanted to talk to each other without rolling your own "translators", and of course the Browser Wars.
My sympathy goes out to web developers.
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
-- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian
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Having to implement an HTML editor from scratch for our intranet made me spend a lot of time on innerText before rejecting it and doing all my own parsing from the DIV's innerHTML. More work initially but oh so compatible now (I have to support IE9+ [IE7+ when I started the project], Chrome, Firefox and Safari).
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: Having to implement an HTML editor from scratch
Dare I ask why?
There are great, mature editors already out there.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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We do weird things with various objects that need special handling. We tried the various existing editors but they didn't work quite the way we wanted. Some of our users are very fussy, but they pay our salaries so that's the way we do things! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yesterday, out of the blue, and for no particular reason, I started thinking about my old high school principle. Now it has been 39 years since I finished high school, and to suddenly start thinking of this man, remarkable as he was, is a bit odd. Anyway, I decided to do a search for him, and see what he had been up to since. I came across this article, written only that morning:
RAY COLLINS: Dr Stephen Aitken | Maitland-Newcastle Catholic News[^]
My principle was (at that time) Br Stephen Aitken. Strange how I only started thinking about him on the same day as this eulogy was published.
Anyway, as I mentioned, he was a truly remarkable man. In a school of over 1700 students, he could approach any one of us, or our parents, and talk about our interests, how we were currently performing, and if we were having any issues. 10 years after I had finished, he had been given a block of land and told to turn it into a school, which he had done, I decided to pay him a visit. He saw me coming from across the yard, rushed to greet me, and started talking as if it had been only yesterday.
RIP Brother - I owe you much of who I am today.
Cheers,
Mick
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It doesn't matter how often or hard you fall on your arse, eventually you'll roll over and land on your feet.
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I would settle for a few minutes outside the Twilight Zone.
RIP Mr. Aitken ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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A remarkable man indeed, it' a great loss for the collectivity!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Kudos to your principal; let his example of caring both about the profession and the people he interacted with be an example of how professional should behave.
Engage the people around you; learn about them; care about them; invest in their lives.
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Damn. What a loss. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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It's always sad when we lose good people. Rest in peace
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Thank the great Ghu there are teachers like your headmaster, I had this creature [^] to remember my schooling by.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I had both kinds, I suspect there is some kind of balance somewhere...
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Galaxy Note 7 fires likely caused by 'super-aggressive manufacturing process' | ZDNet[^]
At the end of the, actually very good, article there is this brilliant analysis:
Quote: "In this case, Samsung took a deliberate step towards danger," wrote Shedletsky, "and their existing test infrastructure and design validation process failed them. They shipped a dangerous product. That this is possible at one of the top consumer electronic companies in the world is humbling -- and demonstrates the need for better tools."
Nope. Nope nope nopey-no. Unless by "tools" the writer was referring to the designers, in that case I endorse his/her diagnosis. This wasn't a problem of lacking tools, as it is explicitly said, Quote: Samsung took a deliberate step towards danger
so this is a design issue not a tooling one.
Some people will never uderstand tha no feraking tool can substitute good design and proper implementation of safety rules and good practices.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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By "better tools" the author means mind altering devices that make it impossible to decide to step towards danger and ignore (or loosen) safety rules and good practices.
Duh.
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And here is me thinking the problem is some fat ass bending/squeezing the phone, or an idiot charging it while it is under their pillow/duvet etc. or buying some cheap imitation knock off charger with no/or limited protection built in...... 
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