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Have heard that pharma companies deliberately underestimate the expiry date on their medicines; however, not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'.
Factor of safety = similar to how civil engineers design the dimensions of their structures, with a 'factor of safety'.
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I worked for a major Swiss pharmaceutical company CIBA and the expiration date is based on a percentage of loss of potency.
Antibiotics are the easiest to test and the most critical.
One antibiotic that is outdated can cause serious harm Tetracycline.
Look up Fanconi Syndrome
As a clinical pharmacist I have used many outdated medication for my personal use.
One BIG problem a number of years ago Physicians would donate outdated samples to
FREE Clinics who had volunteer Pharmacist but the clinics were not required to have
a Pharmacy License hence no inspection by State Board of Pharmacy
One law suite for mistreatment somewhere put an end to that concept
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I was talking about that with my doctor once. Regarding one particular substance he said, "that has no expiration date." The label said three years.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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For one lotion, my doctor told me that the expiration date was based on it being stored in room temperature, which for medicines often is a cabinet in the bathroom, and 'room temperature' is typically 25C. Keep it in the fridge, and it will last a lot longer! (Just make sure that it is clearly marked, and remember the kids.) He didn't say it would last "forever", but he sort of indicated "Don't worry about the expiration date as long as you store it in the fridge".
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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For cheese, I tend to read "Best before" as "Best after".
(Also, lots of wines are sold years after the indication on the label, and it hasn't hurt the quality  ).
The last few years, most food stores in my district has installed a separate cooler for "best before" food, where they put all the stuff that expires within 2-3 days, at 40-50% discount. As long as the food is marked "Best before", and not "Last consumption date", the store may legally sell it after the date, but the stuff in the BB cooler never reaches the BB before someone has picked it up.
Everybody knows that the safety margins on food are large. But commercial / public institutions, from restaurants to hospitals, cannot risk to be caught serving food as much as a single day beyond BB. So you regularly read stories in media about people who have learned the times when the institutions empty their fridges to the garbage. Excellent food, when still in sealed, unbroken packaging, are still cold from the fridge when the 'hunters' pick it up from the can.
There is a trend demanding more 'real' BB marking, to reduce the amount of food waste, and it is slowly catching on here in Norway. In my childhood, milk was dated three days into the future; at that time, lots of people kept their food in a cold basement - fridges was just starting to catch on. When they became commonplace, the 'lifetime' of milk was extended to a week. Nowadays, it is three weeks, but that is under the assumption that the carton is unopened. After opening it is a week - but if drink milk at all, you probably will empty it in less time.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Amarnath S wrote: not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'.
About 6 month according to wife who worked in stability department of pharma companies. After that you still have about 6 month in which degradation occurs but it's not so bad. More than 1 year: totally unsafe.
Mircea
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I remember a Honda manual that stated "do not eat this manual"
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I guess that is because if every customer did, the load on their customer support would most likely increase.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Real programmers don’t read any manual.😂😂😂
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And that means most of the times you think the world is NOT mad... You should consult someone...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Wonko the Sane | Hitchhikers | Fandom
The toothpick instructions that convinced Wonko mankind in general was crazy: Hold stick near centre of its length. Moisten pointed end in mouth. Insert in tooth space, blunt end next to gum. Use gentle in-out motion./blockquote>
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Can someone please fill me in?
(You don't have to...I am just requesting  )
Every so often I see a post in the Lounge, titled "Wordle <number>".
What is that? Why is one posted each day (just out of curiosity) and what _is_ a Wordle, anyways?
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Wordle is a web based game from the NY Times. You have 6 tries to guess a 5 letter word. The game tableau shows which letters in your guess are correct but in the wrong location and correct and in the correct location as well as indicating incorrect letters (by color). You can only play one puzzle per day.
After success or failure you can save to your results to the clipboard to share. The results don't show your actual guesses, just which positions had a correct letters. Colors indicate correct or incorrect guesses and position. You can create a NYT account to track your stats over time.
The wordle posts in the lounge are the shared results of various users each day.
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Wordle 1,071 3/6*
🟨🟨⬛🟨⬛
⬛🟨🟩🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
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Wordle 1,071 3/6
🟨⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩⬜🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
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Wordle 1,071 4/6
⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
⬛⬛🟨🟨⬛
🟩⬛🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
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Wordle 1,071 4/6*
🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟨🟨🟨⬜
⬜🟩🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
⬜🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 1,071 5/6
🟨⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟨🟨⬛🟨⬛
⬛⬛🟨🟨🟨
🟩⬛🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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Wordle 1,071 3/6
⬛⬛🟨⬛🟨
🟩🟨🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Jeremy Falcon
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Quote: AI in action here in never-never land:
07:30AM (left pond): Power goes out.
11:30 AM: against my better judgement, I call FPL (power company). All responses from digital.
Auto response: We are aware of an outage in your area, affecting 10 customers. The problem is a transformer, we are very sorry, blah, blah, etc. We estimate that the outage will be resolved by 1:15. Would you like us to send updates?
Me (I will never learn): Sure.
4 trucks now on my street.
2:15: Still no power, no updates. Foolishly (I am an old fool), I call again. Same mumbo-jumbo but now "we have no estimate of the resolution time". Trucks are gone.
3:15. Power comes back on.
Voicemails,text:
4:41: This is your update from FPO [sic], our resolution specialist is on the scene and determining the cause of the outage.
4:43: This is your update from FBI [sic], calling to confirm that power is now back on. The cause of the outage was:
(different voice) "we are sorry, an application error has occurred. Goodbye". FBI? Hmmm.
I suggested that they connect to CP and ask for some codez.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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theoldfool wrote: I suggested that they connect to CP and ask for some codez.
bad boy, very bad boy... as we didn't have already enough from those... 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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4:45: This is your update from FPL, calling to inform that the application error caused a wrong message to be sent to you. We apologize for that. We get to understand that the power has not yet been restored. The issue has been escalated to a higher level. Will be attended to shortly.
Meanwhile, the reality is that power has already been restored.
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Hmm
Is the the person to whom I am speaking?
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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