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cheers,
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Hi Greg no one is ever going to solve these sort of clues - you have to play by a set of rules and you shouldn't need specific knowledge of anything to solve it ( bridge in this case ) ( if no one solves your clue you have failed as a clue setter )
A globally acceptable way to write your clue could be
Formal agreement to reduce (8)
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I assume you won on Friday? The Lounge[^] Pompey boy didn't say, but ... someone is up, and I'm reasonably sure it's not me ...
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It's so horribly pertinent.
Probably always was. Probably always will be.
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Sounds like every politician who's ever lived.
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Favouritism - artificial intelligence in bullshit (4)
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BIAS
AI (inverted, as is right!) inside BS
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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oops
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Never underestimate the power of bullshit: Flies are crazy about it
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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https://ncase.me/covid-19/[^]
An excellent explainer, even if rather US-centric.
Don't like the numbers? Plug in your own and see what happens.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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the mathmatics part is simple,
it's introducing humans into the equations that WILL screw it up:
- to officially report or not report
- to count this as X or call it something else
- fake news, and whose side are we on.
I can understand the frustrations of epidemiologists, to get even one of the factors (i.e. fatality rate) they need accurate information.
Contrast the differences between "official" figures released by governments. Even if you say let's take USA, UK, Germany as "reliable" and ignore those we know as fake (and being fair that's not only China) ... anyhow USA, UK and Germany have better healthcare, this lowers death rates, so even using their figures alone doesn't give you an accurate fatality rate
... And that's just one variable (mortality rate)
for "the world", i.e. richer to poorer countries: healthcare ability, population mobility, interaction, density, [effectiveness of] mitigation implementations (distancing, masks, isolating...), infra...
Playing with graphs is fun or AND IS scary,
- it's not a job I would want to do in real life,
... at least not without being able to remove humans from the equation
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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Every country will have its small difference on how they count their statistics. What's important is they are consist on their methods so that a country can determine how they are going. The small differences in methods between countries is only important if you're comparing countries with each other.
Where the problem arises is when countries do inadequate testing and so are running blind or just confirming the obvious cases that are positive at hospitals and not finding the people who have no or little symptoms or just fight it stoically by themselves at home.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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One specific example of differing reporting strategies:
According to the Worldometer statistics, Norway has almost 8000 active cases, only 32 has recovered. The problem is that if you are diagnosed with covid-19, but you are not hospitalized, there are no established figures for reporting your recovery. The 32 are patients who were classified as recoverd while in the hospital.
The way "active cases" is registred, Norway will have 8000+ cases "forever"; they will never "recover" in the statistics, even though they have recovered long ago. (At the moment, 51 patients are hospitalized.) So, the "active cases"/"recovered" is completely irrelevant for Norway. If you believe them to be relevant, you will get a completely wrong impression.
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but they do need other countries' data
- if further behind what to expect, what mitigation methods help...
- to give some verification of their own numbers / projections / time or escalation scale,
- because people may travel to/from - they need to assist with travel advisories
- different countries circumstances (say density, temp, ...) adds clues how much that is a factor
even a country like USA, between cities, towns and mountain men external data can only help
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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lopatir wrote: Playing with graphs is fun or AND IS scary,
- it's not a job I would want to do in real life,
... at least not without being able to remove humans from the equation
Let nature take its course, and soon enough you won't have to worry about humans being part of the equation...
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dandy72 wrote: Let nature humankind take its course, and soon enough you won't have to worry about humans being part of the equation... can't argue with the evidence.
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, CCP
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Wow, this is ... scary, to say the least. It looks we are going to have to live with that sh*t virus for quite a long time, if not forever. In France, we already had 8 people that were re-infected. There are no tracing mechanism installed. I keep on telling everybody around me to slow down their contacts and keep the social distancing since the lockdown is over in France, but it looks like the end of lockdown was assimilated to "virus is gone" in everybody's mind. Add to that all the fake news stuff plus the average person in France is dumb enough to not understand anything about transmission and risks - I am not really optimistic.
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I don't understand why anyone would think a virus is just going to disappear. Generally, they don't do that. At best (worst?) they lay low for a while, then come back in a new and improved version, cf. The Asian flu that came back a decade or so later as the Hong Kong Flu.
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When a vaccine is developed, we may come pretty close. At least as long as we manage to control those outbreaks of vaccine opponents...
Measels is one case of virus infection that is almost gone (but kept alive by those vaccine opponents). Smallpox is officially (by WHO, that is) eradicated for 40 years.
But it all depends on a vaccine, or some other means to control it. For the corona virus, we do not have that yet, and maybe we never will.
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Member 7989122 wrote: But it all depends on a vaccine, or some other means to control it. For the corona virus, we do not have that yet, and maybe we never will. And the type of virus... the "normal" flu gets a vaccine every year, but we can't get rid of it, no matter how hard it is tried.
Member 7989122 wrote: When a vaccine is developed, we may come pretty close. At least as long as we manage to control those outbreaks of vaccine opponents morons... FTFY
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Member 7989122 wrote: For the corona virus, we do not have that yet, and maybe we never will.
I'd put money on "never".
So far, in decades upon decades of trying, there has never been an effective human-coronavirus vaccine. I highly doubt SARS the Sequel will be any different.
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While I was already a bit aware of it, this whole pandemic thing confirmed several things to me:
- It is so really easy to influence people, especially when using fear and social media.
- I assumed so far that about 50% of people are not smart enough to let them decide by themselves what is good for society. I was wrong, this must be much more, which to me is a terrifying perspective and a big philosophical question about one's liberty vs. society well-being.
- Governing is definitely not easy - I would not have wanted to be in the government's shoes to make decisions in the last four months. In my career and my hometown responsibilities, I had to make decisions that would have consequences on people's life - not whether they would live or die, but whether the company would keep them employed or whether the company must relocate them to other countries, so hard enough to deeply impact their lives. This was hard enough on such a local scale, I cannot imagine how hard it is on the global scale, and for matters or life or death. And it is always a lose/lose situation : I take the example of the lack of masks in France. There were lacking and the government decided to lie about their importance at the beginning of the crisis, so that helpers and priority jobs could get as much as possible. Then media bashed them because they lied, but what other option was possible ? Tell the whole population "Yes, masks are important, but please do not buy them because we need them for medics and nurses" ? That would have cause havoc and a massive rush on any available mask - just remember what happened to toilet paper, which is an item that was not even relevant for anything related to health.
- Relocation in so called low cost countries is not a future-safe option, but this is nothing new. Yet I hope there will be another look about it at my workplace in the future. Of course money talks, and will talk whatever happens or happened, but still..
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