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That's the article I found as well - I got the anagram, and googled to see if the word existed!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Did you google the anagram ?
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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And the only other word(s) I could get from it were "Castle Airport" and I didn't think that worked.
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...has become my default browser since this morning. I was tried to constant nagging from chrome that something went wrong last time I closed it, every time I opened it. So far, I felt everything is big, text, spaces, context menu. I managed to reduce first two. I still need to find where can I tell it to make context menu smaller.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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As I see the main - and worst - problem of Edge is its predecessors...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Welcome to the world of Edge!
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Cp-Coder wrote: Welcome to the world of Edge!
...as opposed to the edge of the world.
Hopefully it doesn't make you want to jump off of it.
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Quote: as opposed to the edge of the world You're a Flat Earther, right?
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Yeah, and last year we had a convention - people flew in from all around the globe.
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Something right with the world today
And everybody knows it's wrong
But we can tell 'em no or we could let it go
But I'd would rather be a hanging on
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Taking off from the tabs vs spaces post few threads below, I was wondering why they were talking about tab = 8 spaces. Does it not make the code unreadable as it is too spaced out?
When tab is set to 8 spaces:
if (true)
{
if (true)
{
}
}
When tab is set to 4 spaces:
if (true)
{
if (true)
{
}
}
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Yeah, but same as double spacing: it makes it look like you wrote more code!
if (true)
{
if (true)
{
}
}
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So, if you get paid by lines, do you also get paid for empty lines?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Well, we get enough "articles" submitted with ten lines of code spread across two pages that it must be true!
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We get paid for article length?
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Glad I dont get paid per line of code
Years back, I worked with a product that had a limit of 32K lines of code
We used a framework that used up 21K of them
I spent so much time reducing the number of lines used so we could get all the functionality in
Id have ended up paying my employer
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The 8 space idea was around from the early days of Unix, and the only the terminals were basic teletypes (electric typewriters). I Have never understood why anyone thought that was a good idea on a device that generally could only print 80 characters across the page.
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Yes, it is waste of space, I feel. Or was it a mistake:
Australian Dev 1: Keep a tab on it, mate. I am going out for coffee.
Non-Australian Dev 1: tab on what? (didn't hear term mate)
Australian Dev 1: mate.
Non-Australian Dev 1: (again misheard) ah, keep tab on 8. Sure, but it is weird though.
And that caused this mishap.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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I'd think that it is older than Unix.
In Fortran, cols 1-5 were reserved for labels. Col 6 was for a line continuation marker. You could start your code in col 7, but then the continuation marker would be adjacent to the code, possibly disturbing the reading of the line (if, say, you use digits 1, 2, 3... to mark the order of continuation lines, and the code line starts with a numeric. So you set the tab stop at 8.
In the Fortran days, indenting loops was not very common; code was written from pos 8 - the left margin labels were good enough marking of loops. The problem of rightward migration of the source code was not relevant.
In those days, it was common to have arbitrary tab stops (like on most old mechanical typewriters). Often, a programming language recommended certain tab stops: If my memory is correct, Fortran (if you used tabs at all!) recommended stops at 8, 14, 20 and then for every 10. On a punched card, there was no way to tell if you had moved out to col 14 using the tab stop or the space bar - either left no hole!
When evenly spaced tab stops were getting common, there were some fighting about what comes after 8 - is it 15 (the first tab brought you 7 positions out from the margin, 8 + 7 = 15)? Or is it 16, (counting starts at 0, so n tabs brings you to position 8*n)? Or 17, the first one 8 cols out from the margin, i.e. at pos 9? If Fortran had still been strong, I guess the third alternative (9, 17, 25...) would have been rejected, but it is the most consistent and easiest to handle, so it won.
If there had never been any disagreemet about the positions/intervals, causing chaos in line/table layout when moving text files around, maybe tabs would have been popular today. More and more people are rejecting it, both because of the non-standardization and (among software developers) because they came to hate it through makefiles. In modern days the tab key has become common as a navigation key in GUIs, for moving to the next edit field, which further discourages its use as a text input key. Python is actively discouraging tabs.
I am happy about it. As an input method, it is fine, as long as it has the semantics of "Space fill up to the next tab position" (rather than inserting a tab character code into the file).
I hate it when some tab-loving co-worker edits "my" files, and garbles up some nicely lined up declarations, comments etc. Some garble not only the lines they edit, inserting tab characters, but their editors (don't ask me which one they are using) replace any run of 2+ spaces up to a tab stop, throughout the file(s). Today, most of our projects state explicitly that their source files shall contain no tab stops, so we are gradually able to control it. We did have a pre-commit plugin rejecting commit of files with tab stops, but then there were projects still using classical makefiles, so we had to slack up on that. Maybe we could have allowed tabs if we forced everybody to use the same identically configured editor/IDE, but if we tried to enforce that, I'm sure that several of our young energetic employees would have left the company.
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Quite possibly, although when I was writing Fortran & Cobol, all input was hand written to coding forms and sent to the Data Preparation department, where it would be punched onto Hollerith cards by a team of pretty young girls. And since neither language was free form the issue of tabs never arose as far as I know. Assembler was similarly fixed although by convention the operator field was set at column 11, operands at 21, and comments at 39.
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