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Bueller... - YouTube[^]
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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This is how you can tell a Mathematician from the other, lesser forms of humanity.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Does anyone knows if I will be able to safely upgrade from RC to RTM?
I would like to try VS2017, but I have been burned out by the upgrade progress to RTM in the past and can't be bothered trying it in a VM...
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My experience from the past says: maybe. RC to RTM upgrade mostly works, but some cruft lays around or isn't done correctly. My advice is to put in RC in a VM or separate boot partition.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: My experience from the past says: maybe
Haha you are taking a big risk here!
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Yeah, I really went out on a limb with that one!
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Nobody knows it. It probably depends on how fast Microsoft will release RTM build of Visual Studio 2017. As far as I can understand you want to perform a safe upgrade to RTM build, but I would not do it. Just, remove your VSS2015 and setup the new Visual Studio 2017 RTM at the time it will be available for download.
P.S. Thanks for notification of Visual Studio 2017 is about to be ready to the market.
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Arthur V. Ratz wrote: P.S. Thanks for notification of Visual Studio 2017 is about to be ready to the market.
You're welcome!
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Arthur V. Ratz wrote: P.S. Thanks for notification of Visual Studio 2017 is about to be ready to the market. I wonder if this is a correct inference from what has been said on this thread. In my experience, the transitions in MS software tools between RC and first release, are slippery when wet, and always wet.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I'm not expecting a seamless upgrade.
I'd already tried Preview ?, Preview ?, RC, and kept disappointed.
The extension system was not compatible with the one in 2015. My current favorite extensions were not running on it, which became the major drawback for me to try out its features.
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I usually do complete system clean install when new VS RTMs
modified 19-Nov-18 21:01pm.
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If he can't be arsed to try it in a VM, do you really think this is going to be an option for him?
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Indeed!
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I was still in the mindset that my only profiling options were:
- (excellent): Redgate ANTS profiler.
- (barely acceptable) VS 2015 inbuild profiling (better than before though)
But a colleague of mine, without initial prejudice, did a google search and lo and behold, a really good and "free" .NET profiler: NProfiler™ - A fast, extremely accurate .NET profiler[^]
I used quote since they have various distribution: community, pro, etc.. with different pricing.
Community is still perfect for home coding, free and a great profiling option!
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I will check out the profiler. here's another...
SharpDev Studio has had a free profiler available in it since at least 2010 (way before MS & VStudio)
SharpDevelop @ic#code[^]
It has some really fantastic tools that let you see user mode v kernel mode calls and drill down into the performance and instantly see where the lags are. It's really nice for free.
There is very little or no docs on it though so probably why it has been missed.
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Really?
I kind of dropped SharpDev since Visual Studio counter attacked with the community edition!
But nice to know anyway!
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Super Lloyd wrote: I kind of dropped SharpDev since Visual Studio counter attacked
That's funny, because that was my experience too.
The SharpDev profiler is better than the VStudio one though, for real.
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Just had a quick look at the store page.
Report looks good, but.. no free version..
i.e. NProfiler win!
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Freeware doesn't always means that it's a good ware. For serious development, I would better not to use it, but using the commercially distributed .NET profiling applications.
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Still not free, but if you buy Resharper Ultimate you get it as part of the package (along with dotMemory and dotCover).
Also just looked at your link, and NProfiler isn't free, unless you're a student (or an Open Source maintainer). In which case, all of JetBrains tools are also free.
modified 6-Dec-16 9:45am.
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It's fully-integrated with Visual Studio, displaying the duration of each function call in your code.
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Maybe worth to post it in: Free Tools Discussion Boards[^]?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Right!
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As I said in the Free Tools forum, the site you've linked to does not provide a "free" version.
The only mention of "free" versions are for open source projects and students. In both cases, you have to contact them to apply for a license.
Call me picky, but I expect a post announcing a "free" tool to actually link to a tool with a free version available.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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