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Even I could draw in PSP9.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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OriginalGriff wrote: this stupid afternoon
What did the afternoon do to you, huh!? I get that Corel is stupid, but leave that poor afternoon out of this...
And totally unrelated, this was the only Corel I could think of...[^]
I even got the music stuck in my head now 
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The lack of a feature isn't a bug.
At least you can count yourself lucky--if there was a way to introduce a bug in whatever you're trying to do, you can count on Corel to find it.
And then if there is no way, they will defy the odds.
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Yeah... I used to use "Corel Draw!" and "Photopaint" in the 90's. And one of their favourite tricks was to crash while saving. And while autosaving as well 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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There is one thing that will surely kill your PC. IO!! 
I have this issue that has gone on for years under Windows OS (XP and now 7) for a long time.
Here it is:
All of a sudden so much IO bombards the main disk that the entire OS is bound up.
If you do anything you only create more IO so you just sit and wait...and wait...
Anyone else suffer this kind of thing. I often attribute it to WEB BROWSERS!!!
Usually Chrome, but others seem to do it to. Like all of a sudden they decide to flush all their buffers to disk or something. IT is quite a terrible thing.
Anyone? Share my pain? 
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I haven't had this problem anymore since I got an SSD.
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harold aptroot wrote: I haven't had this problem anymore since I got an SSD.
Very good input. I should've mentioned that too, because I have one machine where I've applied that solution also and it worked. It's crazy to think that you have to install an SSD in a windows machine though. Isn't it?
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I installed a SSD for my system's drive and the Windows Performance Index on the machine went up from 5.6 to 7.2! Disk IO seems to be twice as fast.
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I agree 200%.
It is just interesting that we have all these quadcore processors and Terabytes of RAM and all, but stupid I/O is still binding us up. Where's the roughage!?! 
And there are (kind of) issues with SSDs and they're still more expensive -- though dropping rapidly. Is it lazy programming that the IO is getting killed?
My machine would hum along if not for this disk read/writes. If only we could write to photons.
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So...your system slows to a crawl when it's busy with the drive, and an SSD makes your system responsive again.
Sounds to me like the SSD is just hiding the problem rather than addressing it. What's really causing all this disk activity? Normally I'd suggest your system is low on RAM and it's gotta page things to disk, but if you have plenty of it, it's hard to make that assertion without knowing more.
You do blame Chrome, and it is known to be a pig, by all accounts (I don't use it myself, so I wouldn't know), but still, how much RAM exactly is it chewing when you see this increase in drive activity?
Time to spend some quality time with Performance Monitor / Resource Monitor.
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newton.saber wrote: It's crazy to think that you have to install an SSD in a windows machine though. Isn't it?
It's only crazy if you think you "have" to.
But why would it be "crazy"? Why do they exist, if not to increase performance?
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Typical example on how to fight the symptoms while not curing the root cause. But an elegant one 
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I'd be seriously REALLY interested if there is an explanation to that. I would even suffer to make a complete fool of myself if this belongs to the obvious-things-every-programmer-should-know and I, well, didn't know, but I'd be relieved to know the answer - provided there is only one.
Win8 comes with an enhanced Task manager, with the monitoring function (Remember the good ol' sysinternals?), and this helps a bit to nail it down to the browser, as you have pointed out. Other good candidates are the freaking 1Gb daily "Java" updates (OK, slightly exaggerated here, sometimes only 2Gb every other day).
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I wrote a program which watches the file events on the disk using filesystemwatcher. When it goes crazy I turn it on and most of what I see is the browser cache updating. Nothing that stands out.
I've also turned off all auto-downloading of any updates (java, windows, etc). I run all updates but I only allow it to tell me about them so I can run them on my schedule.
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I do not run into this problem.
It is MY computer and I use it MY way! I connect my modem and browse the interweb, then kill the browser and finally disconnect the modem. The computer is MINE again to do what I want which is program development, not inane chatter.
Dave
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Get new computer?
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Slacker007 wrote: Get new computer?
There ought to be a government subsidy. A fast computer is my right!!!
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newton.saber wrote: A fast computer is my right!!!
As it should be. Fast computers for everyone!!!
Death and destruction to all slow, weak, and feeble computers, that stand in our way of greatness!!
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Surely this is a movement everyone can get behind.
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newton.saber wrote: There ought to be a government subsidy. A fast computer is my right!!!
I'm already rolling my eyes when I read about governments subsidizing the purchase of iPads in educational environments. Apple is already filthy rich, while schools are being provided with these toys they didn't ask for and are still left begging for money for things they really need.
You *really* want the government to subsidize the purchase of computers?
modified 9-Mar-15 15:36pm.
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Yeah! It's a healthcare issue: Everyone's sanity is at stake. Obamacare should bluddywell cover it!
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newton.saber wrote: There ought to be a government subsidy. A fast computer is my right!!!
You've just invented a fifth freedom - the freedom to compute!
The U.S. should start a new Foreign Aid program to provide supercomputers to every child (and adult...) in the world!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Excessive disk IO is a sign of imminent disk failure...
Better back up. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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What you don't seem to understand is that the browser is the most important thing on your computer -- far more important than even you and your family -- so it is only right that it claim thirty times more of your machine's resources than any well-written program should ever need.
Get your head straight.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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