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Posted due a weird bug, I thing; it should be abuse reports — SA
Sergey A Kryukov
modified 11-Jan-15 12:56pm.
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Hi Sergey,
Did you mean to post this in the Spam & Abuse Watch forum?
Also, you better avoid posting exact links to questions and include spam terms; your message was picked by the message moderation feature for review (I approved it). Hence, it's better to post a link to the list of questions of the member instead of the questions themselves, then it does not need to get reviewed.
The quick red ProgramFOX jumps right over the Lazy<Dog>.
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I think there is a bug. At the moment of posting, the page title showed "Abuse Watch". Because of your comment, I cannot remove it. 
—SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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Hey, Sergey, you might be interested to know that this message popped up as needing moderation -- that's probably what caused your trouble yesterday.
This user has already been reported in Spam and Abuse and is on his way out the window.
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It seems as a bug to me: I thought I clicked on "Abuse Watch", but the page title also showed "Abuse Watch".
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Good; I already found the appropriate report.
As to the "message popped up as needing moderation"… It sounds troublesome. How can you see it? If this is a problem, it needs to be reported as a problem, or a bug.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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It only means that the automated spam filter was unable to decide if you post is or is not a spam...It had some words that can be part of spam but not all the content fit the pattern of spam...So in this case the filter asks us CPians to decide...
(And probably that what happened to you, that someone decided that your post is a spam and caused your account to close)
I do not think it is a bug, but more like the beginning of the learning curve of a half-intelligent filter ...
You can see the message moderation page here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Moderate.aspx[^] (in most cases it is empty)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Thank you, but this is not what I reported. Unfortunately, I don't know how to reproduce the problem, so there is not much to discuss yet.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Spam filters are in place and doing very well now a days. Whenever they detect something suspicious in forum messages, that message goes to message moderation queue. Link to the same is visible just above the article moderation link (Not visible when there are no messages that need attention).
If you report that message as approved,all is well but if you report it as spam,that message will be no more along with the poster.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad
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Thank you for the explanation. At least it explains why valid reports can get into the moderation queue; it can happen if you quote the part of spamming content in the report, right?
Anyway, this is not the problem I addressed. I only complained that my message got into this forum, in some wrong way.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote: At least it explains why valid reports can get into the moderation queue; it can happen if you quote the part of spamming content in the report, right?
It can also happen if only including a link to the spam message because message links are generated using the begin of the subject. If the subject contains suspicious words the report message may be detected as possible spam. This happens also when the link is used only in the href section.
Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote: I only complained that my message got into this forum, in some wrong way.
That may be indeed a bug with moderated messages if you are sure that you have posted to the spam forum. But all messages I have moderated so far has been posted to the correct forums.
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Anyway, welcome to the Lounge, Sergey.
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Sergey A Kryukov
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I have been wondering why CP has introduced this half-baked user moderation system. Although I was laughing yesterday when it was SA, it turned out to me today. And my original account is still not yet there since this morning.
http://www.codeproject.com/suggestions.aspx?msg=4977498#xx4977498xx[^]
And even after this, the baba questions in Q&A does not stop.
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Unfortunately the spam-moderation does not yet include QA...
One of the features of this moderation that if the message got reported as a spam the system removes member instantly - it is enough that one not read your message carefully and you are gone...
In any case do not see it as personal attack - CP staff try to improve the site and the anti-spam-war is one of the hardest part of it...
See it as a voluntary work for the community 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I understand that it's not a personal attack.
But my account was removed (and not yet returned) based on 1 trigger. And I am not yet sure what exactly that was.
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Hi, Are you saying that one spam report by one user is enough to get someone's account automatically disabled ? If so, that's downright scary.
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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Exactly. If that report comes from message moderation...Scared me too...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I guess the question to ask then is: who is "message moderation;" I've always assumed only CP staff could de-activate an account.
cheers, Bill
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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I dont't think it's CP staff only. And as you said what scares me as well that it's just 1 report and account is gone!
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I can see the message moderation queue (and I think you too) and if I report a message there the member will be gone - so beware  !
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Does this apply to only new accounts?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Message Massacre Queue no can see ... where ?
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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I have seen the Message Moderation Queue only once and IIRC, it appears just above the one for articles/blogs/tips approval.
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
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