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Anyone else having a problem with this update for VS 2012? Google says that it takes a long time to install and eventually returns an error.
I have it trying to install on 2 machines right now, and it's been going all night!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I had no problem with it...It took no more then 15 minutes, but truly the last phase (preparing VS) took 2/3 of it...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I just ran Windows Update, and it got stuck at an update concerning VS 2012 for a very long time. I don't know if it was the update you mention, though...
I noticed that I actually had VS 2012 open, so I thought that that was the problem. But even when I shut it down, the update refused to continue.
Now, I've killed the process, and I need to restart Windows to try running Windows Update again.
I haven't got time for that right now, so I don't know what will happen when I do, and I run the updates again.
Would be interested in hearing the experiences of people who've had trouble with it...
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The setup stops if VS open (any version) and you have the choice to close VS or force to continue the setup. however what alos can block is SSMS! It too uses VS core components, but not identified as a blocker!!! Consider it!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: you have the choice to close VS or force to continue the setup.
Only if you run the "normal" VS updates. Not those supplied by Windows Update - Not in my case, anyway...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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FYI, I had actually closed studio and all of its relatives before attempting update, but mine still failed.
However, I didn't confirm that devenv.exe was definitely closed, so maybe it was stuck in memory.
I can't even stop the update now. Can't even kill it.
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newton.saber wrote: Can't even kill it.
Of course not - it designed to kill you  !
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I was able to finally kill it. I had to kill a specific .exe -- there were two of them running -- which was named after the KB, like KB3002339.exe.
I rebooted and now the update is back.
I'm going to try updating directly from VStudio and see if I get better results.
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I was just trying to cancel the installation now. Thanks for posting.
It's been running for 2 hours and is stuck.
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The associated KB article is here[^]
I had trouble as well, running it through Windows Update. Just went to that link and downloaded the KB and installed it as a standalone. Took ~10 minutes.
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Ah, so that's what it is. When the machine was still updating this morning, I simply killed the power while it appeared to hang on the "Do not turn of your PC" screen.
Almost time to find out whether it still boots.
Crap.
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Boots, after a quick repair. Disabled any auto-update and promoted the machine to games-console/webbrowser.
I'm not impressed with the "new" Microsoft.
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I've had a request from a business analyst here who is having to model two systems that I have worked on so they can be rewritten by an external company in an 'off the shelf' package that was purchased a couple of years ago.
One of the systems is a C# WinForms thing written in Visual Studio, the other is Progress.
His question is "Rather than write out all the data fields can you provide an extract by screen / tab that summarises all the data fields in the 2 systems?".
With regards to the C# one, that's not possible is it? No out of the box tools or behaviour in VS to achieve it.
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chriselst wrote: an extract by screen / tab that summarises all the data fields
Screenshots?
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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Ooh, I like you're sneakiness!
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Brady Kelly wrote: Screenshots?
Atcherley, that's not as daft as it sounds. Words in TIFF screenshots are treated as words, and can be extracted/searched/etc.
There will be, however, slightly less silly solutions -- but most of them would require code to be written, rather than frameworks imported, so they probably wouldn't be preferred by a lot of places I've worked
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Words in TIFF screenshots are treated as words, and can be extracted/searched/etc.
Wow. That's some power knowledge for the day, thanks!
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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So now if you find a PDF using SharePoint search, but then can't find your search term in the text of the document, you know what to do: look at all the pictures!
That must be especially useful on the Playboy SharePoint site.
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Might be possible using reflection? Something that goes through each form and lists all the controls?
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I think the analyst means (and believes that it would be sufficient enough) to describe the purpose of every field on the UI; almost like user documentation.
I doubt that is sufficient to describe the program and to get the analyst what they need. I would ask some questions to find out what they have been tasked with, and how that information will be used by the external company. That might help both of you better understand what they need and for you to be able to provide it.
Otherwise, it does just sound like using Alt-Print Screen or the snipping tool to create screen shots.
Any idea why the programs need to be rewritten? Or are they simply trying to move everything to this other platform?
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Paul M Watt wrote: Or are they simply trying to move everything to this other platform?
Pretty much. The two programs are an office based and field based part of the same overall process / system. They were deemed too complex and specialised to be incorporated when the new system was first brought in, and were 'definitely' going in last year, now it looks like they might finally get around to having a go at it next.
As he wants things by the end of this week, anything that involved me manually doing stuff is not going to happen.
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chriselst wrote: As he wants things by the end of this week, anything that involved me manually doing stuff is not going to happen.
Let him know that.
Because anything that you could do with an automated tool, such as reflection of the controls and associate the names with them, would be almost worthless without context of usage and a description.
However, if he's after a list to mark a checkbox...
Here's a possibility. See if he will print out the screen shots, and create the collection of data fields, with a description of what he understands they do.
Then you guys can review it and you can correct anything he hasn't gotten quite right.
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chriselst wrote: They were deemed too complex and specialised to be incorporated
So they want all the complexity documenting, then they will remove the complexity based on the documentation? Sounds to me like that's never going to work - you'll end up with a system that doesn't do what it needs to, but it'll look good initially; the deficiencies will pop up later & delay implementation massively (until the project gets cancelled).
The only sensible way to succeed is by them talking to the business to analyse what they need (good job they're business analysts) then defining, developing & migrating to the system they need.
Just my two penn'orth.
Regards, Stewart
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Stewart Judson wrote: The only sensible way to succeed is by them talking to the business to analyse what they need (good job they're business analysts) then defining, developing & migrating to the system they need.
You know that.
I know that.
All they're going to succeed in doing is dragging over all the bad bits to the new system and then introducing some new ones.
I don't care, once the existing ones are turned off support is nothing to do with me.
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