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My point was that many people within the US do not consider Californians to have an accent. Southerners have a drawl, northerners have an accent, midwest, etc, but within the US many people don't think Californians have an accent.
Of course, outside of the US, I'm sure it sounds that way.
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RyanDev wrote: Southerners have a drawl
I kind of thought that most people here in Texas would have an accent when I moved here. It is surprisingly difficult to find someone that has an accent that you would associate with Texas.
People speaking with an accent of a predominately Spanish speaking nature are more prevalent than Texas drawls though.
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Wes Aday wrote: I kind of thought that most people here in Texas would have an accent when I moved here.
Same thing about Atlanta. But turns out most people in Atlanta aren't from Atlanta. 
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RyanDev wrote: people in Atlanta aren't from Atlanta
Mostly the same here.... I have met more people from out of state than actual Texans. Most people I meet here are from Mexico or..... wait for it..... India.
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Wes Aday wrote: India
Really? I would not have guessed that one. 
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RyanDev wrote: not have guessed
Me either. More here than I would have thought. Might be the area of town I live in too. Intel and Freescale have a campus not too far away.
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I bet I could point out plenty of Hyundais there.
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I don't hear my son's accent (a Northern California native) but I do hear his friends and the people I know and work with. It now also sounds a little odd when I hear a British accent on TV but I don't notice it when I speak to friends on the phone or go back for a visit (too cold, really )
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mark merrens wrote: British accent
Cough, cough... There is no such thing as a British accent and the United Kingdom just so happens to have some of the biggest accent differences within just a few miles(Cambridge/Norwich accent for instance, less than 65 miles separation and the accents are completely different) 
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GuyThiebaut wrote: There is no such thing as a British accent
Fair point though I was dumbing it down for this side of the pond.
I have a NW London accent which is quite different from a sarf London accent or an East London or Essex accent which is not quite Estuary English which is nothing like a Bedford accent which, whilst close to Luton, is a little different and so on and so forth.
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I didn't realise you were from Blighty.
I thought I was teaching an American a lesson 
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Let me repeat for the umpteenth time: Made in the USA, raised in the UK. Blame my parents - I do!
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It's called Calingish.
My friend once put on the census report that he was Californian, as the race that he associated with.
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It really comes down to this -
When I hear those bloody English accents on TV, etc., the only positive thought that comes to mind is that at least it's not French.
However, just to annoy anyone who'll take the bait:
It's clear that unlike the awesome musical nuance of East Coast US English, I must needs remind you that the European version seems to be evolving into that mouth-full-of-marbles French grope.
(I couldn't figure out the most appropriate 'Type' for this so I closed my eyes and clicked. News it is!
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From 1977~1979 I was on the faculty of the University of Tennessee, in Knoxville (east Tennessee). That region still had a distinctive regional accent (sometimes called "Appalachian") which my youngest brother still speaks with to some extent.
I was struck by the way that words like "miracle" were pronounced "murkle." And, you'd hear "caint" for "cannot," or "can't." Sometimes "tore" instead of "torn." "Column" pronounced as "colyum:" I heard that growing up in Florida, used by working-class white-men.
Of course, the higher up the socio-economic ladder, and the higher the level of education, the more the speech did not use these types of pronunciation blatantly.
I had undergrads in my classes some of whom were from hamlets up in the Smoky Mountains where, some scholars believe, an accent more related to Elizabethan England than other American accents survives. An interesting pro/con discussion of that here: [^].
It may help some of you get a fix on the Smokies by referring to Dolly Parton, who is from Sevierville, and whom some have characterized as "the Tennessee version of 'Twin Peaks'."
Back then, way up 'thar in them mountains, Shaped Note singing as done in Elizabethan England was still being carried out in churches. You can hear a sample here with voice-over speaking in East-Tennesseean: [^].
One incredibly tall on-scholarship basketball player in one of my classes claimed to have grown up without electricity in his small mountain town where, he said: "we're so far back in the woods the vultures f**k the chickens." He also said he had been raised in a church where handling serpents (rattlesnakes) was regularly practiced by the preacher.
Now, thirty-five years later, I'm sure everybody down 'thar is speaking in plain Mallburgerese.
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When my wife and I were hiking in Big South Fork, we heard some of the most grating female backwoods accents. I still cringe every time I think about it. 
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Growing up in California, I didn't really have an accent (from an American perspective, of course), though to this day I still use "dude" as a one-word sentence in a vast array of situations.
dude.
 dude.
 dude?
 dude.
Now that I live in Michigan, I'm noticing that I'm starting to pick up one annoying habit: "dere" instead of "there", as in "Dude? You see that guy over dere?"
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Vark111 wrote: Now that I live in Michigan, I'm noticing that I'm starting to pick up one annoying habit: "dere" instead of "there", as in "Dude? You see that guy over dere?"
That is a result of interacting with other people who have exposure to or a background in either
(1) Toddlers
(2) French
(3) Ebonics
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(4) Chicagoans
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Most suburban Americans have an accent created by the Columbia School of Broadcasting.
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I've heard the postulation that current American accents are more similar to the way that the English spoke in the 17th century than current English accents. This is like saying that red is the most similar colour to the rainbow. It's not so much comparing apples with oranges as comparing apples with pears, strawberries, kumquats, etc..
Accents throughout the UK are now less characteristic than they were when I was a child, probably because of TV. Accents in the UK 400 years ago were even more regional than they are today. There was less travel, less mixing between regions and no audible mass media, so of course differences had evolved over the centuries between invasions from different countries.
And since 17th century America was settled mostly from the UK, it's not surprising that they would sound the same, that is, an American family originating from Yorkshire definitely sounded like a family still living then in Yorkshire. That same family did not sound very much like someone living in Devon then! American accents have evolved and people from New England don't sound much like those from Texas. Those accents have evolved over the past few centuries and have been impacted by many factors.
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Hey everyone, thought people might find this interesting. Apparently Microsoft is offering Certifications in Azure and Office 365, and if you take the exams by 12/31, they are free. I'm probably going to do it, just cause my company is utilizing azure more and more, and I think it would be useful...thoughts?
Click here to get a voucher[^]
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If you can get a raise for it, sure.
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offer is closed now 
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