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I am just pondering.....
If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements).
Requirements;
A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so).
Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4
Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc.
Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable.
Any thoughts?
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If we could afford private school, we'd move back to Hungariaorszag in a twinkle.
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New Plymouth. NZ.
It has oil and gas industry. Small city safety and good education. Ski field in Central North Island about hour or so away. Not sure about the oddities of New Zealand as I live here and they probably normal to me. Don't know too much about New Plymouth per sec but have been there and is nice place. Any question about NZ let me know..
Ross
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I'm sure I had a head hunter contact me about 9 months ago asking if I would be interested in an Plant/Ops managers job there. I think it was a local subsidiary of Shell. They appeared awfully keen. I think I still have the emails to go and check.
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Anything in NZ will obviously be on a lot smaller scale the anywhere else in the world. Hell, we only have 4 million people in total. (Plus a few 100k in Aussie as _Maxxx_ stated Aussie Aussie Aussie Oink Oink Oink)
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Internet sucks most places in NZ = expensive.
Beautiful place though, the country of my birth...
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly
"I have sexdaily. I mean dyslexia. Fcuk!"
Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife
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I don't know about the Oil & Gas industry.
But Oz is bloody nice, mate.
And there's skiing in parts (NSW notably) and better skiing in KiwiLand which is but a 3 hour flight away (you wouldn't want to live there, obviously, as is ably demonstrated by a) the number of Kiwis over here and b) Once Were Warriors
Education system is probably not quite as f***ed as elsewhere - we're child friendly without too many of the wrong sort of child friendly folk (if you get my drift)
There's not too much in the way of bizarreness - and women can drive (you to the pub, you back from the pub)
Looking forward to greeting you to our shores
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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What!!!! Sick of picking on your Tassie mates. Which eye have you got open now?
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RossMW wrote: What!!!! Sick of picking on your Tassie mates. Which eye have you got open now?
Faarrrkkkk off, he's a misplaced Pom he is.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I may have been born a Pom, but, erm, well, it's like this, Guv'n'r
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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DaveAuld wrote: Requirements;
A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on
tap (say within an hour or so).
Oil & Gas industry within region,
preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4
Good education
system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g.
woman can't drive etc.
Oil and Gas i dunno but everything else:
South Germany (Okay this year our summer wasn't that nice, but we also had like 36°C)
We have plenty of snow, good education System, no religious madness and 80% of our women drive very good 
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Pardon me? No religious madness in (south) bavaria? Even the ruling party names itself a "christian party".
Greets from Franconia. 
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There is more than Bavaria ... Baden Württemberg / blackforest?
Currently we have around 24°C
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I would choose Bora Bora. I would be living in a home made tent from palm leaves, eating coconuts and most important not working for idiots. Every single isle far from civilization with nice weather would do.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Hope you don't mind me asking a question here, as someone currently living in Scotland, with an interest in the independence debate - You mentioned in a previous post that your rig had all been sent home at short notice for some hush-hush reason? Can you clarify what that was all about because it seems that it stoked a load of rumours about a huge new oil reserve being discovered in the Clair field?
My gut feeling is that it's nonsense, but I'd really value the opinion of someone actually involved in the business directly.
Andy B
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It wasn't my rig that was demobbed.
It turns out that there was a discovery, it was announced a week later in the papers. But it was pretty much a non-event and the companies involved share prices barely fluttered.
All the talk about the Clair field is down to people with short memories. I remember when the Clair was first built, that it was always stated to be a multi-phase field development plan. That field is simply moving into the 2nd development phase, and suspect the next one will be in about 10 years.
West of Shetlands has lots of potential, but it is very hard to operate, heavy crudes, deep water (past the ridge) and harsh environment, the issue is cost. It doesn't matter how much oil is left, cost is the governing factor. North Sea is still declining at a rate quicker than it is being discovered/exploited.
If you take my employer, in the North Sea we are recognized as being 'the' best in class. We have the lowest lifting cost/barrel and highest uptime efficiencies and generating large cash flow, yet the parent company are potentially looking at disposing off us to concentrate on US growth. We are just waiting to hear, but it is very quiet, and it doesn't just effect us, but ALL their international assets including Egypt/Oz/Canada. Jana Partners bought a $1B stake in July and are demanding a split/spin-off of the 'international assets'
Add to this that, the industry is resource constrained, you cannot get competent experienced teams for either offshore or engineering, everyone is moving overseas. this means to get people you need to pay and this puts costs up massively. Companies will then withdraw investment and go and spend their money in more profitable regions.
I keep hearing the 'yes' group saying 'we can do this, look at Ireland/Norway/Iceland/Sweden etc.etc.' and yes they have done it, but cost of living is frightening and these countries went through decades of pain.
You then have to look at international markets / fighting Europe / The rise of the East. To stand and compete against this you need to have clout, UK has clout, Scotland on its own doesn't.
There is too much from the heart and not from the head going on. It is possible to still be a proud patriotic Scotsman and still be a part of a union.
At the end of the day though, that is just my personal opinion.
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What you've just explained there is more concise than anything I've heard from the Yes/No campaigns.
This is the trouble with democracy sometimes - ignorance still has a vote.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply Dave. These kind of details have been sadly lacking in the whole debate.
I'm not the kind of person who signs up to anything based on the evangelical preaching's of single-issue organisations, especially when they are so far from the concensus view. Your information is worth it's weight in gold to me, thanks again!
Andy B
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My twitter has just started to get a few Yes voters asking for a retweet to a story saying that the discovery of massive new oil reserves is being suppressed by the media.
People find it easy to believe that they are lied to by anyone in a position of authority these days, the media, the government.
Why the Scots expect their own government to be any different is beyond me, it seems that they just want to be lied to and manipulated by Scottish people, except that it isn't just Scottish people who live in Scotland so all they'll end up with is a different set of rich, lying, manipulators in charge.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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The moon. Total freedom if you are able to sustain your own food and water, and if needed the air. Otherwise there is always Mars as well
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I would like to live in Cuba, and my job would be to lie in a hammock all day whilst Pedro and Ernesto (My employees) rented Jet Ski's to tourists.
(I know the apostrophe is wrong but it looks horrible without it).
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
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You may consider Scotland... 
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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That would mean moving abroad if the polls are anything to go by.
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In a failed state, if the economics are anything to go by.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Patagonia?
It's a bit ... "windy", but they got the oil, they got amazing peaks with snow all year, as child-friendlyness of latin american countries (which is to say: great). Kirchnerism and Peronism certainly are bizarre, but have little impact on wifal drivability and similar matters.
Not sure about the oil industry working conditions (but then, I donät even know if "4/4 rotation" means you'll be caught in a 4x4 roundhouse swing when your shift starts, just as warm up).
Also, distances *are* big, not sure if you get snowy peaks and mother earth leaks are close enough for you, distances between places are usually measured in days.
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