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I'm just wondering if people are a little awkward around Angela Merkel (et al) at the G7. "So, are you also going to the D-Day anniversary commemoration tomorrow?"
TTFN - Kent
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They'll be fine as long as they don't mention the...
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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I did once, but I think I got away with it...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Been on the job market and had quite a few interviews. What's annoying is that most never respond. I can see not responding to a resume submission, but not responding to an interview just seems rude. In one case, I'd had FOUR interviews with the company in question. (I suspect they hadn't been given an actual budget to hire, just permission to interview, but why not just tell me that? This turns out to be the case at several companies--they try to get the budget from management only once they have a specific candidate.)
Note to hiring managers. If you take the time to interview someone, take the time to follow up.
PS. In a true irony, I just received an email thanking me for my interest, but that the company has not selected me as a final candidate. What made me laugh is that I'd already told them A YEAR AGO that I wasn't interested in relocating to Chicago and never had an interview, just a pleasant conversation with their in-house recruiter. Yet, this is a great example on how to do things right, even if horribly delayed. (See Roger's post below.)
modified 5-Jun-14 16:21pm.
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It certainly sucks alright. But you're gonna have to just go ahead and get used to it.
There's absolutely no reason for a company to respond.
You have to approach each morning as if it's the first one 'on the market'. No interviews, phone calls, email exchanges mean anything until you've got signed paperwork and someplace to report and start work.
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mikepwilson wrote: There's absolutely no reason for a company to respond.
Except for something called common decency. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Except for something called common decency
I'm with you on this, if you've taken the time to be interviewed they should let you know the outcome. 
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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RyanDev wrote: Except for something called common decency.
Since when are companies decent?
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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BrainiacV wrote: Since when are companies decent?
Mine pays me on time everytime. That works for me.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Except for something called common decency.
You are delusional. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote: You are delusional.
No really. There are still places in the wild where it exists. You'll just have to trust me.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: JimmyRopes wrote: You are delusional.
No really. There are still places in the wild where it exists. You'll just have to trust me.
No place I have ever interviewed. 
Does it make you happy to be rejected by nice people?
Personally, I don't care when I am rejected. I only need to hear "you have a job".
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote: Does it make you happy to be rejected by nice people?
Yes? 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yep.
It takes a little bit of internal calibrating. But once done, it doesn't matter one whit.
After all, it's not like I go back to a car dealership to say "sorry, but I bought a car someplace else." That would be stupid.
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mikepwilson wrote: It certainly sucks alright. But you're gonna have to just go ahead and get used to it.
There's absolutely no reason for a company to respond.
You have to approach each morning as if it's the first one 'on the market'. No interviews, phone calls, email exchanges mean anything until you've got signed paperwork and someplace to report and start work.
Agreed with all but the middle statement. There is quite a good reason for a company to respond -- so that they don't tarnish their reputation in the community. If it gets around that a company has rude HR or fails to follow up on interview outcomes, surely that will have a negative effect (unless the company is extremely attractive for other reasons).
Absolutely spot on about the last thing though; nothing said during the process can be relied upon until a contract is produced and signed. And even then... 
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Oh I don't mean they shouldn't. Just that, in a buyers market, their reputation in the community means precisely squat.
Programmers are a dime a dozen nowadays and the status quo has always been to just not respond. So, in practice, there's really no reputation hit at all.
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Manners, dear boy, but I'm a Brit.  but it's a pain, I spent a long time looking, only to be told by recruiters that my skills were out of date. Finally get a job find my skills are exactly what is needed
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Not sure how big your community (developers to companies) is in your area but I know of some companies that have pulled the multiple interviews and never respond. eventually word gets out about them doing this and developers start turning down interview requests.
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It's a buyers market at the moment (from the employee's point of view) so with an attitude like that all those companies are going to end up with is sup-bar employees.
Start contracting, nobody ever got rich working for somebody else
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Man, that is true in more than one country....
It seems like people either don't care or are to timid to even say "sorry, but not this time".
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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On a bright note if they are to callous to respond would you really want to work for the heartless bastards?
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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I've thought exactly that. They may "forget" to pay me when that time comes.
(Actually, I actually did have a company forget to pay me for my first week. I worked for another that had a mistake on almost every pay check for the first six months. At another company, a person in accounting decided she had too much work and threw away everything on her desk, including my new hire paperwork and some very important bills.)
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A mate of mine got a job, then the day before he was supposed to start he got a much better job so phoned the first up to say he wasn't going to start.
A month later the company he wasn't working for paid him.
He phoned up, they said thanks for letting us know, send the money back.
A month later they paid him again.
This carried on for six months.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I'm a devoted lurker at Ask a Manager and the lack of reply from even a good amount of investment of time and effort on both partys seems quite common. There are all sorts of reasons - but none seem to be in *your* favour.
The essential advice: This sucks. Get over it. Assume you've don't have anything until you have a written offer. Stressing about it just makes you feel bad, and doesn't harm the rude people.
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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