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9 years of post secondary.
Tell me about an app that can utilize 200 GB please?
Every server environment I have ever worked on has to use virtual machines to utilize that amount of memory or more.
Having a masters degree means you can gets grades and follow society - that does not mean he is current on technology.
He is indeed uneducated.
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What does a single app using 200GB have to do with a terrible end-user UI? 64 bit has been available and (afaik) worked properly since Windows XP, not to mention non-Windows OSs. 64 bit is excellent technology, although beyond the needs of most applications, but it is totally different to Metro.
In your next post you talk about servers; you shouldn't even be interacting with a server through a graphical UI in most cases so it's completely nonsensical to talk about Metro wrt servers.
Metro isn't even technology, it's a design choice, and a terrible one at that.
Colborne_Greg wrote: The only reason not to like metro is the fact nothing is programmed for it yet.
No, the reason not to like it (as I've pointed out to you in this thread and others in the past) is that we moved forward from running one application at a time 25 years ago and it's just insane to force people back into a one-at-a-time model, particularly when computers are now powerful enough to easily run a lot of applications in parallel. Why do you think tabbed browsers are so popular?
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Do you understand what metro is?
Metro is not one application at a time model.
I suggest you take training on windows 8 to educate yourself on every aspect.
The only downfall to metro is the lack of programming for metro.
The way metro interacts with the user is limited by the applications you use not windows itself.
By the way so you understand what metro is:
It is Windows RT aka Windows Runtime aka the .net framework turned into an operating system.
Metro is a marvel of absolute programming perfection.
The desktop in windows 8 is a metro app.
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Everyone uses 'Metro' to mean the non-desktop crappy interface in W8. Microsoft initially called it that (see 'Metro styling' all over the web) and it's stuck even though they changed their mind on that. If you don't realise that and think we're talking about the back-end improvements to the OS then your confusion and posts start to make a bit of sense.
Colborne_Greg wrote: I suggest you take training on windows 8 to educate yourself on every aspect.
Well, no, actually I think I'll just keep using software (and that includes OSs) that makes itself easy to use. In my case that means Classic Shell to hide most of the W8 insanity.
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The user interface of the metro mode is what I am talking about.
Metro is mainly about screen partitioning.
see that black line - it treats each section of the screen like its own screen (not window, not application) so when an application such as a desktop or a not well thought out metro app - it is put into full screen and given absolute focus; allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do.
Again educate yourself
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Screen partitioning, even if it is allowed by the Metro UI (I've never seen it do anything other than run apps full screen), is still vastly inferior to window overlapping as in classic windowed UIs (not just Windows but Mac OS, Unix/Linux window managers and right back to Acorn). I've currently got 10 windows visible on my screens, but 8 of them are just corners sticking out for when I need them.
allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do
It is easy to control multiple programs at once in a windowed UI, that's the whole point!
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Two windows can not have focus at the same time
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The desktop can not have focus to two applications at the same time
key word there is focus
This means I can type using the keyboard into one app
Use my mouse in another app
while playing a game in the third with my gamepad
the desktop is a piece of sh*t - grow new skills
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Multiple users
The tablet is how I discovered it, I had a map half screen, and IE on the other, I was finding directions and my girlfriend started playing around on IE - which worked wonderfully while I searched for directions.
Back at home with multiple monitors I am able to play a full screen game while she uses the secondary monitor.
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I write metro apps
I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL 
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The case being?
In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason.
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A word of warning about your old backups...
Windows 8 had a "restore from Windows 7 backup" option which would read backups from W7 and Vista. In their wisdom Microsoft have removed this from 8.1 so you need to "Install Win 7 on a VM and restore via that" (seen on Technet).
I can just imagine old grannies turning up at PC World asking for help with Hyper-V Manager.
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"Excuse me dear, can you help me with my hyper man?"
"Your what?"
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Do we have functionality from previous versions back yet, i.e.
- Classic theme and full customisation options for window colours
- Useful status bar information in Explorer (total size when selecting multiple, version information when selecting single)
- Bye bye Metro by default
- Double clicking various common file formats (PDF, AVI at least) doesn't open full screen Metro apps by default
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Answers:
1) I don't know. Personally I'm happy with default, so didn't bother
2) yes
3) you can get rid of most of it with "taskbar properties". (I heard 8.2 is going to rip out more of it)
4) No, you have to manually install the programs (sumatraPDF, VLC, whatever), then associate in file explorer
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- Of course not, and I never really thought that many people customized their Windows colors that much. However, I use the Bing Desktop, so I get a new bg image and color theme each day. Keeps things fresh.
- Total size when selecting multiple: yes. Version information when selecting single: no. TBH, I can't imagine why I'd want to see version information in file explorer (that's what the properties dialog is for, after all), but to each his own, I suppose.
- You know the answer to that. Like it or not, it's not going away anytime soon.
- This is easily resolved once you install your pdf reader of choice and set as default (or whatever). With a fresh installation, the only PDF reader installed is the metro version, which is a step up from the no reader installed of versions past.
Your first two points are all about lost configuration options, and your last two are about not wanting to configure your installation. Sorry, but can't have it both ways.
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I installed this on my granddads computer (he's 74). He WILL like the new solitaire after all!!!!
However, to change apps, the only way he could find was to turn the laptop off, and back on again...
He did ask, where is the 'red x' and 'I couldn't see a 'back button' (he has android on a tablet), both of which I can't argue with.
I said just press the start button..... a whole new world, you wouldn't think the start button (physical button on keyboard) has been there for the last 20 odd years would you!
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How does hibernation not work? It's better than ever, the newer hybrid hibernation is a dream on a laptop, just suspend and forget, the OS will deal with it. Doesn't matter how much battery I had, when I open my laptop it just get's back where it was, taking a little more time if the battery was empty.
Fonts and scaling are a huge issue, but that's thoroughly resolved in the new Metro apps. Of course, if you ignore the new and improved avenue, you'll still be seeing only the old problems.
This hatred on Windows 8 borders on the irrational, I use it on my dev machines and even in VMs and have absolutely zero problems with it.
Even if you don't like the new stuff, the only new thing you must use (and even then it's optional) is a full screen customizable launcher, which frankly 10 times better than a list of 10 programs on the bulging messy start menu. At least 3rd party start menus are much more functional than Windows 7's.
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Hibernation crashes intermittantly on my machine anyway.
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What third party application are you using to get the Start menu back?
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