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Yeah, I have that feature applied. It's just odd that millions of people-hours have now been spent turning that option on so that they can see the scrollbars.
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I hate it, but I rarely use the scrollbar nowadays.
mouse scroll wheel or trackpad scrolling.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: I hate it, but I rarely use the scrollbar nowadays.
mouse scroll wheel or trackpad scrolling.
Now load a 100-page document. What's your quickest way to scroll down to the bottom?
With a viewable scrollbar, you can drag the little thumb thingy (I can never remember what it's called) and drag it to the bottom - and you're there. With your mouse wheel or trackpad, by now you're probably still on page 3.
Granted, if you have a device with a keyboard, nothing beats hitting Ctrl-End. But I know of no equivalent solution for phones or tablets or any other purely touch device. I'm betting there's one, but these devices have existed for well over a decade now, and I still don't know about it. Which says a lot about discoverability. If there's some obscure gesture...then that's my point. You can't even find these by accident.
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doesn't ctrl-down (or something like that) do that ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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First sentence of my last paragraph.
Read it in its entirety to put things into context.
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This "feature" first appeared in Linux Ubuntu a few years back. And since Microsoft is a the nom du plume for "Copycat"....
Hiding the scrollbar is one of the most pervasive, annoying, repeated throughout the day, 250 millisecond time wasting feature of OS's. It's the whining noise of a mosquito that you can't find and kill. After a day of working on the computer, the irritation one feels is like one's skin has been rubbed with fine sandpaper all day
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Marc Clifton wrote: Hiding the scrollbar is one of the most pervasive, annoying, repeated throughout the day, 250 millisecond time wasting feature of OS's. It's the whining noise of a mosquito that you can't find and kill. After a day of working on the computer, the irritation one feels is like one's skin has been rubbed with fine sandpaper all day
Spot on!! That's exactly right. No human who uses a computer needs this feature -- and humans who don't use a computer do not need it either.
Seriously, it is just pure stupidity. I honestly equate it to waking up and all the steering wheels on all the cars are changed to squares. Imagine that. It would be crazy and annoying.
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Chrome's super thin scrollbar really annoys me I have to use it at work, no other go.
At home I use Firefox which has an old style scrollbar.
Cheers,
Vikram.
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I actually filed a bug report on this. You can get your scroll bar back by going to "Ease of Access" in the Windows Settings interface and clearing the checkbox.
On a small screen (smartphone sized) I can see the use of this feature. On a large screen scroll bars are part of good UI and hiding them is brain dead.
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That's a damn waste of perfectly fine BBQ meat
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Nah stew, some carrots and onions with plenty of garlic and let the little bugger stew for a couple of hours.
I'm not normally one to support the PETA line but that is a powerful video.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I'm not normally one to support the PETA line but that is a powerful video. Yah, seen it and hungry; but no idea why a rabbit needs lipstick.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Maybe better for BBQ. Remember, if you put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig, but maybe if you put lipstick on a rabbit some people will think it's also a pig.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Nah stew, some carrots and onions with plenty of garlic and let the little bugger stew for a couple of hours. Yeah, that's bad, wasting a perfectly good piece of meat. You know there's no "English" restaurants on the continent? Know why? Because all you do is boil it to crap with carrots and onions!
First, you need to get your hands on "stroop"; Dutch product.
Then you prep your rabbit, drencht it in water and bit of vinegar and bit of salt. It'll soften the meat a bit and provide sour taste. Then, next day, cook it; throw in "stroop" to taste, until you have a sweet/sour thing. Add sugar is you used too much vinegar. Bayleaf at that point, plus pepper corns. Use some binder to thicken the sauce.
That recipe is medieval. Serve with (fresh) bread and cheap red wine. Dip your bread into the wine, than into rabbit sauce. No, the wine is not for drinking, but for dipping bread.
Goes very well with (old) Gouda cheese.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Background: I started programming in 1974. Business applications in an assembler-based language, slightly higher-level than actual machine opcodes. Later got into business applications in a proprietary Business Basic, and later COBOL. I moved into other IT areas than programming, closest I came back to programming was scripting for PC and server administration and software in Windows environments.
Never even got my toes wet with C, C++ or any modern programming concept. No Frameworks, no IDEs. Barely touched Unix and hated its case-sensitivity. Retired now.
I've a need to manipulate my contact lists on an iPhone, for example mass deletion based on email domain; or moving others between Exchange server, gmail contacts etc. So, I'm thinking of learning, and programming a small app for myself to install on my own phone.
Two questions.
The first one: Am I mad?
The second: How would I start? What environment, language, learning aids, best practices?
Thanks for any thoughts!
PPI: Probably Past It
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Programming for iPhone you would need to learn Objective-C or Swift. But the learning curve for either is quite lengthy. You would also need to learn the support library that could handle the contacts data. A far easier solution would be to export your contacts into a spreadsheet such as Excel, LibreOffice, or whatever iPhone uses, and manipulate the data from there.
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Do it! At the very least you'll learn some new swear words.
For writing iOS apps you've got a ton of options: xcode & swift for fully native, or Xamarin and C# to stick to the Microsoft stack, some hybrid app options like NativeScript, React Native, and Ionic, or Google's cross-platform framework Flutter.
I've been looking to write a mobile app to augment a little side project I'm working on that's written in Vue.js and Typescript. Reusing all the TS I've written would be nice, so I'm tempted to use NativeScript but I'm also very tempted by Flutter since it uses Dart - a nice clean language - and is being actively developed.
One thing I do want to do is run the whole thing on my Mac instead of being tied to Visual Studio and Windows, so VS Code and Flutter seems like a nice choice.
Let us know what you choose.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Or Uno (built off Xamarin).
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- Any mental illness you may have is probably unrelated to your desire to learn programming.
- It depends on the hardware that you have for development. If you have a Windows PC, I would use Visual Studio with the add-ins for iOS development (using C# and Xamarin). The Visual Studio IDE is excellent, and the Community Edition is free for single developers, so your financial investment is nil.
As for learning C# and Xamarin, I would go with the O'Reilly Publishing books. "Learning C#" is a little dated, but a good start. "Programming C# 8.0" is more up-to-date, but may assume knowledge that you don't have, it you've skipped developments in programming over the last few decades. They also have a wide selection of books about Xamarin, but never having read them, I can't recommend any book in particular.
Enjoy!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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andublin wrote: The first one: Am I mad?
Yes
andublin wrote: The second: How would I start?
A lot of things like this, someone has already figured out how to do. So I always start by googling and seeing if I can figure out the right combination of keywords to use.
If I spend enough time at it, the Google AI realizes what I want and creates a fake blogger with some credible posts and one of them is the solution I'm looking for. If the Google AI is having a slow day, it'll even create a Git repo and a NuGet or npm package, complete with documentation, forums where fake people have asked questions and received answers, maybe some branches and versions.
P.S. - This reply was posted by a Google AI competitor.
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The place to start is to read the postimg rules for the Lounge.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Dr.Walt Fair, PE wrote: The place to start is to read the postimg rules for the Lounge.
“It is, first and foremost, a respectful meeting and discussion area for those wishing to discuss the life of a Software developer.
The #1 rule is: Be respectful of others, of the site, and of the community as a whole.”
I thank you for your outlook.
Another grumpy old guy
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