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MikeD 2 wrote: My reaction generally is to leave and not bother with the info so it feels like shooting themselves in the foot
Let's consider the alternative.
So you give in and accept the ads to view the site. OK - now you've set a precedent. If that worked, next it will be "you must accept doubleclick cookies to view this site".
I even block pixel graphics - really everything - and have an extremely small list of exceptions (like two) for certain special circumstances - although it's not ads but popups.
Just this past weekend I was on the phone to "Goldman-Sacks" because there new website, "Marcus" insists I accept third party cookies and has other privacy violations. They pretended to be interested. I just noted that I didn't open an account their to begin with: they bought out a different online bank, and, although not skillions of dollars, I'll move my money long before I drop my privacy - and asked "how the hell" can a financial institution "upgrade" it's website so as to compromise my privacy ? I doubt they'll get back to me.
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MikeD 2 wrote: Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
No, totally disagree, in a "would go to war to stop it from happening"-way. Companies being able to arbitrarily force people to do what they want is some ridiculous dystopian scenario that completely dehumanizes people into livestock. Anyone who feels like a person instead of an animal should vehemently oppose this.
Hiding content behind an adblock detector is fair game though, naturally I can't force them to do anything either. I generally leave those sites though.
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I read the first paragraph and clicked on the upvote. I read the second and clicked on the upvote. The system will count only one but consider mine double.
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I block pop-ups in Edge plus I use a hosts file. That is plenty good for me.
I don't feel obligated to subject myself to on-line ads. When I buy a newspaper I don't read the ads. Same basic principle applies to online ads.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Same basic principle applies to online ads.
True. But you can't buy the newspaper without the ads. You choose to not look at them. You don't actually block them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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So would you be OK with an ad-blocking solution that downloaded the ads, but didn't run the code or display them?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I wouldn't use it. But I'm OK with you doing whatever you want.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You could have someone else cut out pieces of blank paper and paste them over the ads.
If the medium is digital you might as well automate that task..
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harold aptroot wrote: If the medium is digital you might as well automate that task..
It's that mentality that makes people think everything on the internet should be free. That would be nice wouldn't it? 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Anyone has the right to filter what is not wanted on the screen. If they didn't have that right then family protection filters and company firewalls would be illegal.
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Nah, I'm just too lazy and those are not worth my trouble.
Nothing on the Web is that important.
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it is self defense because the ads are slowing down, are annyoing and sometimes hinder visiting the website.
I only deactivate adblocking on some interesting sites or if really necessary (so some sites I dont visit anymore)
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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I'm fine with an ad-blocker. The ads are just annoying and intrusive and I don't want to see them. If the site objects, I leave and find an alternate. I don't blame the sites - they're trying to make money but I don't have to be distracted by them.
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That's what I do too. Mine is over 600KB right now and I add new entries every week.
Quote: Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
No, I most definitely do not agree. I have granted no one the right to make me see anything.
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Rick York wrote: Mine is over 600KB right now and I add new entries every week.
My hat is off to you! 
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Ad blockers are fine, I use one and also have a huge hosts file. I think the site is also OK if they block access when they spot an ad blocker. I also think it is fine if the site requires $ubscription for access. Today, it is fairly easy to get the information I want by other means. When that stops, I will consider the alternatives. This is how business and the world operate. I would like to see an email service that charges for each email, that would stop a lot of spam. We pay a "mail washer" service to block spam and malware. They block 90% of the email to the server.
I would never block Codeproject 
Would I pay for Codeproject? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
User: Technical term used by developers. See Idiot.
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I do not block ads. I only block things that are violating my privacy by tracking me (even after setting the "do not track" flag of my browser to inform them that I do not wish to be tracked). I have not seen an ad in many months. I use Privacy Badger (in chrome and firefox) and have not seen any websites that will not load.
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I've never bothered with ad blockers implemented as browser plugins as they tend to cause more problems than they're worth - not to mention that this approach means you have to have a blocker on each device on your network. Even host files need to be updated on each machine, so I don't find it to be particularly effective either. Not to mention you don't have access to a hosts file on some devices.
I've settled on Pi-hole, which is essentially a DNS server combined with a domain blacklist. I run it on a tiny Linux VM running on a machine that's turned on 24/7 anyway. As long as your devices use it for DNS, they all get ad-blocking, including PCs, tablets, phones, smart TVS, gaming consoles, etc.
[Edit]
As I'm writing this, 108,896 domains are being blocked. I can add my own custom domains (and whitelists), but I find that generally whatever it comes with and gets updated with works well enough.
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I do not use an adblocker or maintain a hosts file. Usually, the sites I go to aren't too bad with ads anyway. I have to admit to becoming annoyed when I have to wait more than a few seconds for a web page to finish loading due to ads/videos/feeds/etc. If the content is worth it, I'll wait or move on and let it finish...if not, then it's goodbye and on to the next item.
As for the ads themselves, I pretty much ignore them and skip when given a chance.
MikeD 2 wrote: Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
I agree that they paid for ad space/time and have the right to pitch their wares in a nonintrusive manner, that is a quick loading visual/text in a predictable place. If I'm interested, I'll click, if not, then I just ignore it. What I hate is the 'in your face' approach where you have to click/skip through their pitch before viewing what I came there for. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I've been using uBlock Origin, but may drop it due to a) too many false positives (blocking things that aren't ads) and b) too often it doesn't appear to block actual ads!
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MikeD 2 wrote: Do you agree that if people buy ads that they have a right to make you see them?
That's like saying just because I spend money growing coca leaves I have a right make people use cocaine.
Um, hypothetically. 
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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For those who love dual-mode gcc distros like TDM-gcc,
I've created this little clang-cl.bat file which tries to do the same
for clang-cl. No freaking "vcvarsall.bat" silliness.
@echo off
::
:: Dual-mode .bat file for clang-cl.
:: Use as "clang-cl.bat -m32" or "clang-cl.bat -m64"
:: from GNU-make etc.
::
:: If used without a '-m32' or '-m64', simply calls the first
:: clang-cl.exe on PATH.
::
:: Make sure you have both 32 and 64-bit clang installed, duh!
:: Edit the paths below to suite your setup.
::
setlocal
set CL_32=f:\ProgramFiler\LLVM-5-32bit
set CL_64=f:\ProgramFiler\LLVM-5-64bit
set CL=
if %1. == -m32. (
shift
%CL_32%\bin\clang-cl.exe %*
) else if %1. == -m64. (
shift
%CL_64%\bin\clang-cl.exe %*
) else (
clang-cl.exe %*
)
Beware, little tested with cmd (the shell from hell IMHO) as I mostly use JPsoft's
4NT (which still works as a charm in Win-10 approx 12 years after it was created).
Comments and improvements are welcome.
-- Gisle V.
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I think you dropped a clanger.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Wonder if that translates over seas... 
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