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Most likely, I would lose my sanity
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James_Parsons wrote: Most likely, I would lose my sanity
Interesting so :
Your sanity is linked to the web.
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Restaurant web sites deserve their own Dante's circle of hell.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: Restaurant web sites deserve their own Dante's circle of hell.
Obviously you are an experienced user of these sites. They are terrible.
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I don't think I could do my job without the web to look things up. The last few days I've been writing reports with DevExpress' XtraReports. Awesome tool, insanely quirky to work with. Without being able to "ask a question", I'd be soooo lost. And the crazy thing is, the questions that I ask are 99.99% ivory pure "asked before" questions. Go figure.
Most of the web is completely not useful to the point of only being a distraction.
The thing is, what's a distraction to me is useful to others. Probably a lame example, but I hardly ever look at videos of people playing games, whether they're online games or board games. But people actually make money on these videos!
I could just as easily say that most books are completely not useful, to me. I have the books I like to read, and probably those would just be a distraction or useless to someone else.
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Marc Clifton wrote: I could just as easily say that most books are completely not useful, to me. I have the books I like to read, and probably those would just be a distraction or useless to someone else.
Hey, hey, hey... you're kind of ruining my rant, by making good points. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: I could just as easily say that most books are completely not useful, to me. I have the books I like to read, and probably those would just be a distraction or useless to someone else.
I couldn't agree more.
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You don't make judgement about the web just for a few unpleasant experience you had. You could blame and make judgement to the folks involved in planing and building that nonsense websites. Most of these nonsense web site fails because they lack understanding the need and comfort of consumers. Sure, there are tons of websites that are nonsense and useless - agreed. However, there are also tons of websites that are useful.I love books and read books, but I mostly rely on the web because it's easy to access everywhere. Online articles, videos and forums are surely very helpful.
I wonder what's your point of view on CodeProject website. Is it nonsense too? 
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: what's your point of view on CodeProject website. Is it nonsense too?
The site is ok. But the Forums are total trash and garbage and I never go there.
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: However, there are also tons of websites that are useful
Oh yeah, well name 100 of them. 
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raddevus wrote: well name 100 of them.
The're too many to mention. But here's your first 100:
for(var i = 1; i <= 100; i++){
Response.Write($"Good and Useful Website { i }. <br/>");
}
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: for(var i = 1; i <= 100; i++){
Response.Write($"Good and Useful Website { i }. <br/>");
}
Do I detect JavaScript?!?
Garbage! Trash!! Outcast, unclean!!
More proof of the Web-garbage.
I know it's C#. I'm just being reactive!
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raddevus wrote: I'm just being reactive
Object-oriented reactive.
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JavaScript React-ive
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Paying bills, and getting paid. No more "the cheque is in the post" knowing damn well it doesn't eve exist yet, much less it's been signed.
Control over my money: I can monitor and move it around without the bank getting in the way and hanging on to it for a week in the meantime.
Shopping. Has to be said: Fleabay and Amazon are my "go-to" starters for buying stuff.
Price comparisons: not only comparison sites, but comparing prices in the two supermarkets near me while shopping in the other
Recipes: if there is something special I see as I go round, I can look for good recipes before getting it, and decide what else I need to try it.
News: particularly news that isn't "influenced" by my government: it's harder to hide secrets when somebody somewhere will shut it t the world.
And of course: online video. No need to put up with the endless supply of repeats and "reality" shows we're fed with on terrestrial and satellite.
And that's before we get to Google, Wiki, Wolfram Alpha, and CP!
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 That's a pretty good list.
I don't know what I would do without amazon. a lot of the electronics stuff you can't get in stores.
Well, there are some good sites out there, but when you stumble upon the bad ones it makes you forget about the good stuff. You people are kind'a ruining my rant though.
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I agree with some of what you've outlined, but for me the instant access to electronic parts, datasheets, datasheet erratas, PCB prototyping, MCU forums, IDE forums... is a good thing, one that I would not willingly give up at this point. Oh, and CP is pretty cool as well!
do I earn extra brown-nose points for that last bit?
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jeron1 wrote: instant access to electronic parts, datasheets, datasheet erratas, PCB prototyping, MCU forums, IDE forums.
You are right, of course.
But we all agree that bad web sites are worse than no web site for the company.
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I work from home and VPN into our office network, and keep in touch with coworkers primarily with Skype and email. The office is an hour's drive away. Without the internet, I either wouldn't have this job, or I'd be wasting 10 hours a week on the road.
Go offline all you want. I'm staying right here.
As for the internet being a distraction--that's the case only if you let it. Start by getting rid of the obvious ones, like Twitter and Facebook. And have some discipline. It's really not that hard.
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dandy72 wrote: Without the internet, I either wouldn't have this job,
Use the Internet all you want. It is helpful. It's the web that is so bad.
I'm being facetious but it is the poorly done web functionality that is so bad.
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Don't blame the technology.
Good point about the Internet not being the web.
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raddevus wrote: go back online and the "reservation" is really just a put-off.
You cannot put it in ahead of time. You can put in a request right before you want the seats. It has no ability to add a time.
It's just a technological put-off so people don't call the restaurant and bother the workers. 
Useless.
Just like most of the web.
Seen this before, the intention is rather than have you walk in and ask for a table and then hang around the reception area while they chase someone else out then clean up etc they want you to wait somewhere else.
Avoids crowds loitering around waiting for their table(s) blocking traffic flow and arguments when larger groups wait longer than later arriving couples. Can even be a fire safety / insurance reasons where waiting groups may push them over their allowed max body count.
As to the limit of 7 (or 6), it's a safety to stop wankers or evil competitors booking for say 30 and not showing up. For genuine large bookings I believe the [intended] process is/was first create the on-line booking so it's 'in their system,' and then call to increase the number (so now they have your caller-id - sort of like a 2FA for large group bookings / repeat bogus booking wankers). Sounds like since creating this the staff has changed a few times and the newer ones don't know this. (i.e. It does sound like the person you spoke to on the phone was not well trained anyway.)
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Yeah it's all just bad/non-functionality and a way to put you off.
It'd be nicer if they just had a web site that in large font said:
Quote:
You cannot reserve tables here. Come in and wait a while and you'll get a table.
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