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Must have laid a lot of pipe.
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I have a new nickname for you "Greased Lightning", congrats 
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Congrats Dave ! Captain of a ship that is not moving is much less dangerous, that must really be a piece of cake.
*Oil ? What oil ? ...Flammable ? In ... in huge quantities ? Like ... really huge ? Mmmhh ... where is that ship again ?* 
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Ooh, does this mean you can perform marriage ceremonies? 
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Congratulations. I'm still looking for work.
The higher oil price hasn't worked its way this far downhill yet!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Is a mastiff an argument between nuclear physicists?
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Isn't it a ma-stiff? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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a dead mother?
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Barking up the wrong tree, I'd wager. At leash it seems that way. Well - I've had my ion this long enough; time to muon to the next post.
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No, it's a bunch if tiff pages all over the floor after the nightly print job went wild.
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Whoa - that's heavy man!
(Hey! We need a stoner emoji! maybe a little Tommy Chong fella, especially since this site is hosted in Canada - eh?)
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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"If all you are doing is running sprocs, then you defeat the purpose of even using an ORM."
I wonder why he didn't assume that I knew that from the get-go, thus prompting my question in the first f*ckin place...
"I stopped using sprocs over 10 years ago, once I discovered how to use an ORM like nHibernate and EF, becuase I had been in too many shops where those bunny rabbit breeding sprocs were all over the place with half of them no one knew what they were for or about."
I'm really happy for him. However, I have a legacy database that uses nothing but stored procs, and that cannot be changed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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MS Forum idiot wrote: "If all you are doing is running sprocs, then you defeat the purpose of even using an ORM."
No, it doesn't. You still get your results as if they come from a normal query, and can map those to objects easy.
MS Forum idiot wrote:
"I stopped using sprocs over 10 years ago, once I discovered how to use an ORM like nHibernate and EF, becuase I had been in too many shops where those bunny rabbit breeding sprocs were all over the place with half of them no one knew what they were for or about."
You can create multiple procs for different users, with different access-levels.
* This answer provided by a CodeProject forum idiot 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Check his age... Maybe never heard of legacy DB...
And just for the case - there is nothing wrong using SPs and ORM together - definitely it defeats not any purpose... after all SPs are returning tables just like any other select...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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"Legacy"? That's - whisper it around the current generation - "maintenance" isn't it. They don't do no steenkin' maintenance, they are far too valuable for such a mundane task...
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Many years ago, when I had programming as a summer job during high-school (yes computers had been invented, recently), the guys running the shop were eyeing a job application:
"I really do like maintenance programming."
"Sounds like a lazy sod, we sure won't interview him"
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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#realJSOP wrote: "If all you are doing is running sprocs pointing out the obvious and not helping, then you defeat the purpose of even using an ORM the MS forum."
FTFY
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I hear ya.
The most useful thing I've seen stored procedures do is freaking disappear without a trace. Fragile-ass-rubbish they are.
I use them only as needed.
Nor do I use ORMs either.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I use them only as needed.
And that goes for triggers as well.
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Damned straight.
Do more with less.
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If you switch energy suppliers - and here in the UK we are recommended to do so loudly and stridently - always do it in late spring / early summer.
If you don't they will use historical data from actual meter readings to estimate your annual costs which will be over the most expensive months of the year, not the cheapest ...
That's the second conversation I've had with the idiots after they try to up my direct debit by 40% pcm because I'm obviously going to use as much heating the house all summer as I do all winter ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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They know where you live, average temperatures are probably only around 0.1 degrees warmer in summer
Now that I have a "smart" meter why can't I pay monthly for exactly what I use should I choose to? I'm always in credit with my energy supplier regardless of which one it is, obviously they are making profit investing our money.
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Energy companies are their own breed of special, aren't they?
When I called mine to sort out a new tariff a few weeks back, they wanted me to provide them with a meter reading. Despite the fact that they'd installed a "smart meter" over a year previously.
Once I pointed that out, it took a couple of button-clicks for them to get the up-to-date readings, so it's not even as if there was a problem with the meter.
I'm starting to think their name stands for "Extremely Dense ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) -wits".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Tip - call them and say you want to switch to variable direct debit.
Very few energy suppliers advertise this.
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We do the impossible right away, miracles may take longer. Like art, wizardry obviously also is everything that is percieved as wizardry...
Wizard of Id[^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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