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OriginalGriff wrote: More pretentious twaddle by talentless twits.
Artsy fartsy people :shrugs shoulders:
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Marc Clifton wrote: art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow
Not politics, advertising, literary criticism, new age guruing, sports punditry, .... ?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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With a comment like OG just made, no wonder people close the comments on their web site.
I'd rather be phishing!
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In what way is he right ? He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.
He does not like what Marc linked to and by extension, good for OG, there are tons of artists I don't like their artwork, but I just don't go out and be insulting and dismissive of their career and work portfolio.
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But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing.
If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so.
It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious.
And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim.
You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: make money for nothing
That's kind of an art, one that I'm unfortunately not very good at.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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I believe it's called "con-art".
I's closely associated with con-stipation (for the victims) and con-vict for the perpetrators).
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I believe it's called "con-art".
I'd agree, if the person selling is claiming that something is what it is not, that's not the case here. If someone wants to pay for that 'art', let em. I only wish I could get in on that action.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Mark_Wallace wrote: but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious
Made me think of this[^]
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Exactly! Victor Borge, God rest his soul, was exactly the kind of genius I had in mind.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so.
Why not.
Technical ability is not a necessity for a piece of art to be meaningful (achieve emotional response, which is what art should be) to people;
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Maximilien wrote: In what way is he right
In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.
Maximilien wrote: He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.
I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade.
I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
Why do you care if it is privately donated money? everyone is free to do as he please with his money 
Most work of art were and are paid by patrons[^].
Most governments also give out grants to artists the same way they give out grants to scientists and industries.
Publicly funded arts bolster the UK economy, study finds | Culture | The Guardian[^]
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I agree with Griff. IMHO, this is not art, this is a colossal waste of time and human effort.
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If he got in the hole and they threw the dirt back in over him...now that would be art! 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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I don't get it, he digs a hole, then sits / stands in it and that's "art"?
By that definition we are all artists, I'm pretty sure we all at one point during our lives did that (at the beach, during renovations, ...)
I'm sure it's me that doesn't understand the profound meaning of this...
Tom
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If that's art then Golf is a sport
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Some guy once put a urinal in a museum[^] and called it art.
The worst part is that, in artistic circles, it's a highly esteemed work of art.
And what about John Cage who sat on stage, behind his piano, and did absolutely nothing for a good four minutes[^].
Said he "composed silence"...
As it happens I have a bachelor in Common Art and Cultural Sciences.
The bachelor is pretty cool (it's about "what is art", "what drives artists", "how does art shape society and/or vice versa"), the arts not so much
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The problem is that we are (collectively) rich enough to be able to support such wastes of oxygen without counting the cost. In some cases, such support even comes from the public purse!
In earlier times they would never have found patrons, and would therefore have either starved in their garrets or had to work for their livings.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Some people couldn't have a genuinely original thought if they were left to do nothing but try for twenty years.
Plenty of people are willing to say that every mindless, pointless idea they have is great and creative, though -- especially when other people later see meanings in the "work" that the "artist" hadn't thought of.
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It is a fun piece of art; I like it.
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Because, 2017 is the year when, Fifty Shades Darker gets released. 
By the way, how many of you have already watched Civil War? I am having a huge list of movies to watch after my exams, after 20th this month.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Is 'Tucker & Dale vs. Evil' on the list?
Worth watching! 
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Only if you had a doozy of a day.
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