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So I'm working on this application that creates files according to some early 90's "standard"...
I'm not sure how many applications use this standard, but not a lot.
The only application I've tested with, that can read these files, already made a mess of the standard, as did a sample file I got.
So anyway, the standard has a list of companies and codes, which is a bad idea because companies quit and start and so you have a standard that's constantly moving.
It's only a very specific niche type of company, so it's not like it changes daily, but once every few years at the least.
Judging from the names still in the list and some rather big companies missing, I can only assume this list is changed rather infrequently and code 099 (unknown) is used in a lot of cases.
Now we want our company (with two locations) to be added to the list, so we sent out a mail requesting new codes.
And bam, we got an email back saying that they're now added...
But what about everyone else who uses this standard?
What about the software that has to interpret these values?
You can't just change the standard because Sander send you an email (if only!  ).
This is not how a standard works! 
How about we use a government issued number that every company in this business is legally required to have?
And then maybe look up that number in some public repository.
Perhaps a CoC number or a number that's specific to this industry (there are actually more than one to choose from)?
Of course it would require considerate effort of all parties involved to implement that now 
I'm just very quietly hoping these values are completely ignored by all parties using this standard (we've seen that to be the case for some other mandatory fields as well) 
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Welcome to your brand new, fantastic job! 
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Been working on this for three months and every month I get a little sadder
Luckily this project is in it's final stage and we'll soon start a pilot with some customers.
The next project will not feature any standards except my own
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Sander Rossel wrote: will not feature any standards except my own
It's possible that we have met before:
Quote: Coworker: But that's a pattern!
Me: Nope, more like an antipattern.
Coworker: A convention?
Me: Nope.
Coworker: Then it's a standard! Right?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Blatant article placement!
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I have no shame
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Playing database in a file, huh? That's oldschool, but some people never learn. They have been putting up with that crap for decades now and will merrily go on with it a few more. Don't worry.
(Try translating this, especially §§ 1,2,3,4 ... all of them )
Quote: Et Jrundjesetz vunn Kölle:
§1: Et es wie et es!
§2: Et kütt wie et kütt!
§3: Et hät noch immer jot jejange!
§4: Wat fott es, es fott!
§5: Et bliev nix, wie et wor!
§6: Kenne mer nit, bruche mer nit, fott domet!
§7: Wat wellste maache!
§8: Maach et jot, ävver nit ze of!
§9: Wat sull dä Quatsch?
§10: Dringste eine met?
§11: Do laachs dich kapott!
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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That's how people deal with such things in Cologne and it's written as it is spoken in the local dialect. Turns out that even Darth and the Emperor[^] know that.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Wir simmer dabei, und dass ist prima 
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CodeWraith wrote: Turns out that even Darth and the Emperor[^] know that.
Like everything in German-ish, they sound a lot more evil
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Only if you pronounce it like a Klingon.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Is there any other way to pronounce it?
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Kaaskopp
Try this.[^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I love Ode an die Freude!
Or at least those five minutes of over an hour of symphony
And I think many people don't know there's actually more
Great video though.
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11 . du looscht disch gabudd.
^Is that correct?
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Nope. Correct would be 'Du lachst dich kaputt'. More or less 'You die of laughter'.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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You should try then with "lerne bayerisch"... It sometimes hurts in the eyes, seeing how it is written
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Standards are attempted by team managers who get tired of fixing the same exact type of bug over and over. So they come into the world through the best of intentions.
The problem with standards is that they can limit creativity, which itself is a critical part of programming.
So, how do you have both? That is the big question we are all still trying to find the answer to. There are lots of ideas and attempts, which means there is a lot to research and a lot more that can be tried.
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