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which came first: the seed or the plant?
well as it turns out birds are so stupid they are still trying to figure that out.
so, "how do you get birdseed?" - work in progress.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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That's easy - I walked too close to its perch and the bird seed me and took off.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Just sit on a branch until I put down grass seed then gorge yourself. 
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... to close accounts in online systems? I have just tried to close two online accounts that I no longer use, and yet neither of them offer a simple option on the "My Account" page. Nor do they give any clues in their online help as to how it can be done. In one site I used the online chat to a CSR, and even she had to consult with someone to find out how to do it. In the other, I have had to use the secure message facility, and even there "close account" was not one of the options; I await their reply with baited breath.
In contrast, CodeProject makes it simplicity itself. 
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That's on purpose. Everybody and his dog try to pester you into signing up and do everything to keep you there once they have you. At the very least it's good for statistics. We have 15 billion users. Who cares if that's more than the world's population or that most of these accounts have been dead for years?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It's the Borg mentality... you will be assimilated.
No escape, resistance is futile.
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Yeah, that's what I am afraid of. 
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Goes along with stopping anything a site does.
The day you sign up, for example, the emails will be coming.
Tell customer service to stop and it may take eight/fourteen/thirty days for the contacts to stop.
Really? These are digital. There's no paper envelopes already stuffed and addressed. WTF?
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W∴ Balboos wrote: There's no paper envelopes already stuffed and addressed. WTF?
Mostly true. Companies will run ad campaigns and submit information to email blasters or other marketing companies to be sent out at a later date.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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for those I update my details (i.e. as much as possible fake phone number etc - or if it needs confirmation a junk (always ignored) email account."
Note: if it doesn't need confirmation for email change, after changing your name etc give it the email address of some one you don't like.
It's like the old ploy of giving the pesky insurance sales person someone else's business card and telling them, 'you are really interested but too busy till next month.'
finally (to avoid temptation in boring times) set the password to some nonsense and forget it.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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Yes, I have used that ploy in the past. I just find it surprising that professional businesses (that I have happily used in the past) do not allow such a simple feature.
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If a site won't let me close an account, I see it as an open invitation for me to change my contact details so any junk they try to send my way goes to their own support email.
Then I'll change my password to a ridiculously long series of random characters and don't save it anywhere, so even I won't have access to it anymore even if I wanted to.
They can then do whatever they want with the account.
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dandy72 wrote: change my contact details so any junk they try to send my way goes to their own support email.
That's just brilliant!
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Evil symplicity 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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When I wanted to get rid of Experts Exchange spam (about 500 mails every day, without any activity from my side for 2 years), I created e-mail account, something like ee-junk@yahoo.com, and changed my e-mail in EE. This was about 10 years ago... I hope they continue to send notifications to this account.
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I've had to deal with worse. A few years back after some site forum that I hadn't visited in over a decade and had forgot I ever created an account on sent a we were pwnd password reset email I requested to have my account deleted only to have everyone involved insist there was absolutely no way to close/delete/wt![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) an unwanted account. They continued to maintain that position until my request escalated to a rant where I suggested that if they truly didn't have that capability I'd start spamming the forum with off topic and awful material until their developers actually wrote a function to kill accounts so they could ban mine. Strangely enough a few minutes after that threat I got a notice that my account was permanently disabled.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Is there anybody out there who still doesnt have a need to look into this? (i.e living under the rock like me?  )
A quick skim through suggests it's a container service & mostly used over Linux. Looks like it provides a kind of abstraction for project deployment, sandbox type.
But I haven't cared much to go deeper. And our projects are all running on Windows servers/Containers.
Should I still look into it? Some time ago, it was rarely found in the conversations, but now it has reached alarming levels. Looks like it's time to see if it's gonna be related to our work.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
modified 22-Aug-18 7:27am.
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Vunic wrote: Is there anybody out there who still doesnt have a need to look into this? (i.e living under the rock like me?  )
Yes
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Depends on what you want to achieve, for me it's currently no use since it doesn't support GUI applications. For services and console applications it looks good so far.
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
if(!string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(_signature))
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + _signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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If you include HTTP/HTML in you "GUI" concept, then Docker can handle GUIs. Quite a few Dockerized applications provide a user interface of mice and men (ues), like any other web application.
Anything that goes over IP will work. I guess you could even do X11 (remember X11?), although I never heard of anyone doing that.
Anything non-IP will give you problems, though, whether user I/O or other I/O. You can't plug a USB device into a container. Or some instrumentation interface. Or physical interfaces like I2I / SPI. Or even a serial port.
Some people are trying to tunnel USB over IP: Your Dockerized application is given a driver API stub that marshals all the parameters into an IP packet and forwards it to a machine "out there in the free world", unwrapping the IP packet and feeding the parameter into a real physical interface. This is not provided as a basic mechanism; consider it a somewhat experimental hack, which may cause some problems (e.g. far higher latency than you experience with a direct physical access. In principle, you could similarly tunnel any protocol over IP (hey, that's exactly what RFC 791 describes as its primary purpose!), but the only such effort I am aware of is with USB.
The only "standard" alternative to IP is that you can mount a host file system in a running container, one or more files in that file system being pipes. The "external" end of the pipe may be whatever that works in a non-Dockerized world.
As a main rule, any tunneling-over-IP or pipie solution requires a general machine on the outside. That USB solution I know of requires it to be a Linux machine. I guess it could be the same machine that hosts the Docker engine, if that is a Linux box. If you have to set up another Linux box just to hold your physical USB interface, then your gain from Dockerizing becomes somewhat limited.
The IP tunneling means that you have the freedom to place the physical interface anywhere in the (internet) world, as long as the proper software to handle the IP communication is available, but I guess latency could be a significant problem for e.g. trans-Atlantic USB connnections.
I would not advocate any such tunneling solution. I think use of Docker should be limited to pure processing work, with only "primitive" I/O requirements, or plain web applications running HTTP/HTML.
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Yeah, it's important. Containers will (hopefully) replace VMs are the virtualized environment of choice.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
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Nathan Minier wrote: replacecomplete VMs
FTFY...
These are very different ideas and very different capabilities... There are things that containers can't do and the other way around...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Of course, but if you've seen how VMs are largely used in the enterprise...
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
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