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Although, in the great scheme of things, it cures nothing, I just had the pleasure of telling of a high-ranking supervisor when they said bad data wasn't user error.*
I was a bit more polite than I felt and not as cynical as I should have been, but if they don't like it they can ask me to leave . . .
* it absolutely was
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Yes it is quite refreshing to be able to say "It's a THEM problem and not an US problem." and be able to prove it.
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It's time to replace all those pesky users by bots !
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User: Technical term used by developers. See idiot.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Forogar wrote: Perception and reality are often quite different!
Brings to mind another parallel syntax:
Justice and Law are often quite different.
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He has something of a point though. Data can and should be filtered, when possible. It's like the comics we've all seen about "little Bobby Tables" whose name flushed the school's database.
NOTE : I fully understand that it is not always possible to filter all bad data.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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How can it be a user error?
If there's something you shouldn't be allowed to enter, you shouldn't be ABLE to enter it either!
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Really?
That will happen only when we chop off their arms and legs and make sure they can't press keys with a pencil.
YOU CANNOT FILTER STUPID !
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W∴ Balboos wrote: bad data wasn't user error
Depends on your perspective.
If this is QA trying to put your user input handling code through its paces, and you end up with bad data being accepted and committed...then the fault is with the validation code.
How accommodating do you want to be? We live in a hostile world where the validity of user input should never be taken from granted.
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foreach ($user as $fool) {
A great bug-a-boo: how do you validate a field that is supposed to accept text input? Droplists are everywhere possible (to prevent foolishness and sloth); as are number-only fields; even a field for VIN which checksums the value and warns of an error. Etc Etc Etc.
Sloppy work is just that - someone needs to clean up the spills. And, of course, there's no cure for stupid.
In this case, it was either (1) user input error, or (2) data sets sent by an outside source which themselves are not validated.
} // END: foreach ($user as $fool)
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I am in New Zealand. It is currently 9 degrees C. The shortest day is almost upon us.
And youtube decides to show me an add "Sky is out, Thighs are out. Get the most comfortable shorts...."
These guys are hiring hoards of marketing people to front a huge team of engineers, data scientists, analysts powered by untold compute capacity at the problem, fed with all the data they can source.
Yet they cannot tell the southern hemisphere from the northern hemisphere.
Maybe that is a new variable they need to add to their models (once they license the patent I'm about to apply for)
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There is no such thing as a "southern hemisphere". You guys are just closer to the edge!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Trust me, it wouldn't work here either:
Quote: Sky is out
Certainly is. Haven't seen it for days - rain, rain, rain ... cold and grey ...
Quote: Thighs are out
No they blooming aren't!
Quote: Get the most comfortable shorts
"Waterproof", and "Ankle length", I assume?
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Good morning from 'here never rains'. 
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When I went to Rome the heavens opened...
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So, good morning from 'here very rarely rains'.
An unlucky guy you were. 
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Well when I visited Venice the streets were flooded! 
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well good evening from where when it rains it pours (with light & sound show), but usually over in 30 minutes.
oh, but one thing we don't get is Winters
... four seasons, all of them Summer, and shorts all year round. 
(and yes, we get ads for winter clothes)
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Blup, blup (from the Netherlands)
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Lopatir wrote: four seasons, all of them Summer, and shorts all year round.
That usually implies insects never die off and can grow large enough to carry off children.
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Good food, good weather. I'm considering moving.
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True, it did not rain when I came for a visit. Instead, I was harrassed by the lions in the Colosseum and the Forum. At least they like it when it's hot and dry.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Apparently you, old man, came a while ago.
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I still remember what they told us:
"Ok, I want to see some decent sacking and looting activities! Don't stop for anybody or anything! Feel free to burn down buildings when you are done! In case anybody asks, say we are the Vandals!"
The Vandals still have the bad name up until today.
Anyway, I always thought the Romans took good care of their lions[^].
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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