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Compare that to running your own server.
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... considering starting a youtube channel for programmers (especially beginner programmers), and was looking around on YT seeing what other people are doing.
I was honestly quite surprised to find a lot of people referring to themselves as "software engineers". Maybe I'm just old, - okay, I AM old - but when did programmers get so full of themselves that they felt the need to rebrand their skill set in an apparent desire to sound more important than they actually are?
Back in the day (remember, I'm old), programmers considered it an insult to be called an "engieer".
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Quote: programmers considered it an insult to be called an "engieer".
Well, engineers too consider it an insult to be called "engieer". 
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From my university days (mid 1960s), "pure" science students would jibe:
Yesterday I couldn't spell 'engineer'. Today I are one. Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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never mind
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
modified 13-Apr-19 1:04am.
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Rick York wrote: the role of engineers is to design solutions that are an optimum compromise of performance and cost
I strongly disagree. Engineers aim for reliability -- performance is not quite as important and cost matters very little.
Rick York wrote: software that controls machines
I've written software that controls machines too, but it definitely wasn't engineered.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Engineers aim for reliability.
Yes, you are right. We do
PIEBALDconsult wrote: performance is not quite as important
Depending on the project, target. (Performance is pretty important for me right now)
PIEBALDconsult wrote: and cost matters very little.
The problem is, we work for companies, and they do have costs in an altar and sacrify sheeps to get blessed with the money.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I've written software that controls machines too, but it definitely wasn't engineered.
Considering the concept I have from you... It probably was engineered, but you didn't do it on purpose / consciously 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Outlaw Software Engineer has a ring to it
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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#realJSOP wrote: but when did programmers get so full of themselves that they felt the need to rebrand their skill set in an apparent desire to sound more important than they actually are?
Apparently the same time an old man moved on to something called an hashtag these days.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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for me it's who cares, but that's what the job offer says, so I'll roll with it!
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I prefer "coding god" or at least minor diety.
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Don't get me started... again...
Survey Results - Which programming language would you recommend to learn first?[^]
All the kiddies who read "Learn C++ in 21 Days" and then call themselves engineers.
Or enroll in a Java class and say they're "studying engineering".
Most of all they don't understand that it's not about the individual; it's about the product.
Software Development is very rarely engineering. Websites least of all.
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I mean, if I were really going with honesty in advertising I'd have to call myself a "Caffeine Absorption Technician".
Explorans limites defectum
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A programmer is one who just writes code. A software engineer is one who designs out the system AND writes the code. In very simple terms, that's how I have always understood the difference.
I have always been a Software Engineer and have never felt "full of myself."
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Back again from a gruelling expedition in the Dutch mountains.
Although we had bikes with electric support and did not bike for more than about 30 km, the batteries were drained completely during a trip across the Belgian border in the "Voerstreek" !
Nevertheless our stay in the province of Limburg was very enjoyable, our location near the so-called "three-country point" allowed us to undertake interesting biking trips to the German town of Aachen and a part of Belgium called the "Voerstreek" which made us feel like being in France as this part of Belgium is French speaking.
Also Limburg itself is very attractive, has nice cities like Maastricht, beautiful countryside, marl caves and last but not least "zuurvlees" (sour meat) 
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RickZeeland wrote: we had bikes with electric support
Wimps.RickZeeland wrote: our location near the so-called "three-country point"
I feel obliged to point out that the famed drielandenpunt comprises a round brass plate on the floor, and a rickety old snack-bar which never seems to be open.
Boy, do the Dutch know how to party on a day out!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You are correct as always with your sharp observations 
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What Dutch mountains ?
And e-bikes are only used for short term aid, not for a full ride.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Actually, the Dutch mountains are quite interesting.
It's where the army (and loads of civilians) hid out, during the war. There are lots of elaborate caves and chambers, carved directly into the mountains.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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RickZeeland wrote: Dutch mountains
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I am afraid I fail to see any mountains in the links provided here. I see hills. And I daresay hills are quite capable of hosting caves.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Although the definition of a mountain is not very clear, I found that on Wikipedia it says:
Quote: Elevation of at least 300 m (980 ft), with a 300 m (980 ft) elevation range within 7 km (4.3 mi)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain
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Dre landen punt is an interesting place, been there a few times. 
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