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... I've just bought a colour laser.
Every time I try to use it, the heads are dry - I must have poured more ink through it cleaning the heads and trying to get all jest working than actually went on paper where I wanted.
And now to cap it all, it's randomly spraying cyan on every print (even monochrome) and not printing it on the damn page where I want it.
Probably my own fault - I don't print often enough - but sod it, lasers don't have that problem (and the "starter toner" pack should last me a few years at the rate I print anyway 700 pages K and 500 CYM). I haven't bought a new ream of paper in three years and there is a good half of it left!
Anyone here found inkjets as much of a hassle as I have?
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You should be able to remove the heads and soak them in some cleaning stuff (lots of google hits on what to do and how to do it). I also wrote this article:
Keep Your InkJet Print Head Clean[^]
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Hardware problem I think - even if you are printing white space it's spraying a fine cyan background splatter. At a guess the cyan channel is getting a low induced or leaked voltage from the others and it's enough to cause nano-droplet ejection.
It's an Epson, so it's a shared wall piezo channel for each head and droplet, and they can get weird when they start to fail - I used to design industrial inkjet printers using SW PZT and they are funny little buggers.
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I used to be annoyed at HP for having the heads built into the cartridge. I refill* them and they last a good long time, but none the less, it's a lot of money for two-fingers of ink.
So I hand one with cheap cartridges (Brother) and a built-in head. Great - until the head died. Then I discovered how much it cost to replace . . . HP isn't so bad, after all.
I do the 90% isopropyl alcohol to clean them if they get a bit lame from lack-of-use, but buy and large, it works out even, either way (and probably designed to, maybe include laserjets in that equation, as well).
Almost all my personal printing is done to a .pdf file - harder to lose/spill coffee on. Never out of ink.
* Mrs. Wife thought it would make a good xerox machine. Filling black, myself, cost about $US 1.50 and that made it pretty thrifty - although those days have thankfully passed.
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Wow! That article you wrote was back in 1809, oh sorry, 2009. 
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i switched to laser many years ago when I figured the reason inkjets were so cheap is because the cartridges were so expensive and as you say if you don't use them very often they are a PITA.
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OriginalGriff wrote: at the rate I print
That's what kids for - keeping the printer on its toes...
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: That's what kids for - keeping the printer on its toes...
Haha! That's actually very true. When the kids were young they printed way too much. 
But the printer always worked.
Now, printer is used about twice a year and doesn't work. 
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My office "upgraded" to a new combo colour office laser/fax/scanner/coffee maker - ok maybe no coffee, but it seemed to do everything.
Anyway, they were literally about to throw the old HP 2600n colour laser away! I said, "Can I have it?" and they were only too pleased to be rid of it. They even gave me a couple of replacement cartridges (yellow and magenta) that were lying around on top of a cupboard for the last two or three years.
This was three years ago and it is still going strong. Fast, clear printing at 600dpi, strong, well saturated colour when I want it, wonderfully crisp black text. It will print on almost any kind of paper and I have had only one paper-jam in those three plus years. For home users with minimal printing to do it is great - it doesn't dry up, there are no heads to clean and I only just put the replacement yellow cartridge in a month ago.
It powers itself down on standby - for days on end sometimes - and whips back up and is ready to print in just a few seconds when I need it. It just sits, eagerly, on the network and my whole household use it for very occasional printing. A heavy electrical user, it isn't. Maybe if it was printing all day I would notice it, but the way I am using it, nah!
My three ink-jet printers are rotting on a shelf in the basement (I never throw anything away) and are probably all dried up and useless by now. 
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That's what I figured. Toner may be expensive, but not when you add up the wasted expensive photo paper and dried up cartridges I got through.
So I go to print the 2018 Christmas card sample for Herself's approval and ... it's missing green on the tree, and looks total cr@p.
Wednesday. New one arriving Wednesday.
But ... bugger it I'll need a new scanner when I bin the printer. That'll wait til the new year, I don't need it right now.
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Don't bin the printer - just use it as a dedicated scanner.
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Forogar wrote: just use it as a dedicated scanner.
I do it
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Inkjet printers are probably still cheaper to run than colour laser printers though.
The toner cartridges were very expensive last time I looked. The ones that come with the printer are only partially filled with toner so beware of that.
My HP all-in-one OfficeJet 7500 has been good but I'm sure it does use more ink cleaning the heads than actually ends up on the paper.
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Took your advice some time back when I had the same issues Cannon Colour Laser 390, just find the right page and when it wants a replacement imaging cartridge you can fool it with a 10K resistor and keep using the same one! Cheap!
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Be grateful you're not working on one of mine: Kodak Prosper 6000[^]. Full color front/back at 600x600 resolution, printing 17 feet of paper per second. Performing a printhead clean can use over a liter of ink.
Of course, our printheads are a wee bit more expensive than those in your desktop inkjet.
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Yep, same here. bought a cheap samsung laser colourjet ( C430W ) about a year ago and used it a few times since then. It always works straight of the bat no matter how long it has been since I used it last time. Best investment ever.
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Hah! You and Rick both bought ... the one I just ordered!
But I've just realised that all my special papers (210, 220, 255 gsm, in photo glossy / matte, and gloss-matte double sided, plus my Avery label sheets) are inkjet coated ... and I need to get new papers. Sod it!
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Ahhh, no problems there because I have nothing but plain vanilla A4 printing/copier paper. I rarely print anything on special paper, I usually watch photographs on my 60" Sharp television, another really good investment.
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I mostly use photo card to do custom Birthday / Christmas / Get well soon cards, instead of buying mass produced crap that shows no real care or interest in the other person.
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In that case you will do very well with the CW430 once you get your new paper. I have only done a few trial prints on plain vanilla paper and was quite impressed with the quality of those prints. Maybe not as good as a high quality inkjet printer but still pretty good.
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Hah! You and fd9370 both bought ... the one I just ordered!
But I've just realised that all my special papers (210, 220, 255 gsm, in photo glossy / matte, and gloss-matte double sided, plus my Avery label sheets) are inkjet coated ... and I need to get new papers. Sod it!
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Yep, I made the mistake to use inkjet photo paper in my brand new laser printer once, it seemed unrepairable damage had been done, but amazingly after a couple of prints everything was fine again !
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Yeah, inkjet printers were previously a constant source of annoyance for me. Some were simply DOA. With the others, I seldom printed and was still (somehow) forever running out of ink.
I abandoned inkjets about four years back in favor of a color laser printer from Brother. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.
Since changing, I've never have any problems and, four years later, only the black toner is noticeably depleted. Even it still has about 25% left!
Way back, when inkjets first came out, I had a nice HP model. It seemed to work fine.
Each brand and model I've purchased since has gotten progressively worse, with cheaper and cheaper build qualities. In my opinion, they've become scam products solely designed to make you endlessly purchase ink.
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