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When you turn it around, your cat's code looks like you wrote it, it is much more acceptable that your cat writes pretty decent code 
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fair point.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I like to follow what I call the "third idea rule".
Don't accept a design as final until you have rejected the first two attempts.
In a pinch, I might go with a second idea, but I usually have to rework it later. Sometimes, years later.
First idea: Usually a reactionary/instinctual approach.
Second idea: More workable, but with a few warts.
Third idea: Production worthy, easier to maintain, better compile time checking(CYA), etc.
Just explaining an idea to someone else will often cause you to find issues with it.
I am lucky to sit next to a super competent individual.
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that's a good idea
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Only true if you have competent team members. I guess even those people's opinions can be worthwhile, as the example of how not to design something.
As always, it's important to understand your own skills, as well as those of others. The person you might bounce ideas off of for database design is likely not the person you'd go to with UI ideas/questions.
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I work alone, yeah
With nobody else
I work alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I work alone
I prefer to be by myself
Now every morning just before breakfast
I don't want no juice or tea
Just me and good buddy Coffee
That's all I ever need
'Cause I work alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I work alone
I prefer to be by myself
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I spent 18 years working working as the sole dev at one shop. it was frustrating when needing to 'bounce' ideas of off someone else, when they had no concept of what i was even talking about.
Now i work on a team, and it has it's own drawbacks, like stubbornness, knowledge hording, primadonnas, or just non-communicative; I'm not saying everyone is like that, but even one on a team is a productivity killer.
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I hear you. I think just not working with one has made me miss it.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I've always worked alone - even if the company had other programmers.
Now I do like having someone around to explain my problems to (coding, that is) - but oddly, verbalizing has turned out to be a highly likely way for me to see the problem and fix it.
These days, I have a similar path (and no other programmers for many an in-house mile, and none of them code the same languages) - but I'll describe to my boss what I'm doing/thinking/why something may or may not be doable and then, as often as not, e-talk myself into new approaches.
The only nay-sayer is me and I'm willing to listen.
I heard of something called pair programming. Very inconvenient - I mean where will I hide the body?
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I felt similarly while working with a team, and was kind of hoping I could get some of that here at code project but it is hit or miss, which I suppose is to be expected.
I miss teams.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I just like to talk.
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I hear you.
Right now I'm working on the coolest thing, but it's not ready for submission.
Still I'm eager to talk about it because what it does is super cool.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I'd like to start off by saying I love Code Project, the Daily News and the Lounge. I start every morning with it.
It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers. 
While I do some of that stuff, I mostly do Desktop program development.
I would like to find a forum like Code Project aimed at Desktop programmers. If you know of one, please let me know. If we (desktop programmers) are a dying breed, let me know that too.
I am not "jumping ship". I just want to add another ship to my fleet.
Does a persistent cough come from drinking too much coffee?
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We are a dying breed!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I ATEN'T DED
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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We didn't ask you, Esmerelda!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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If you want to amount to anything as a developer, Forogar Garlick, you got to learn three things. What's real, what's not real, and what's the difference.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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My username was taken from an old D&D character I created back in 1978. The character's full name was "Forogar Longstride" (I liked "Strider" from LOTR). However, I recently decided to resurrect him for a new group I may be guest playing with (AD&D v5) and I am going to call him "Forogar Garlick" from now on! 
This also has the advantage that if he gets killed I can claim "Forogar Longstride" never died. 
None of this is real, but it might be different.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Ah, a Fortran Reference, Clearly.
LOL
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I think there are a lot of us here who are primarily desktop developers (although I occasionally stray to the dark side).
However, I am dying, as we all are. "None of us are going to get out of this alive".
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is always 100% fatal.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Well, we old folks code instead of surfing the web, except when it is Compiling
Me doing C++ desktop development.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Slow Eddie wrote: It does seem to be primarily aimed at, and populated by, web application developers.
When a man only has a hammer, all problems start to look like nails. By now we have countless 'veterans' who think that programming must be so clumsy.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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in a way I like it, you see all of the challenges the web folk have to put up with, data security, data compliance, platform disparity...
coding nice little in-house apps or single-platform-single-user tools, none of that matters as much, just common sense, locking up the database/tools so they don't break it etc. it's good to see all the crap us deskies don't even have to think about.
OIOW, I read it because it reminds me why I DONT go down that road.
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You and me both!
All of my paying clients run desktop apps.
there's a lot to be said for age and experience...
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