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Former metal interfaces, with Harry put out (10)
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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ex - former
tin - metal
guis - interfaces
h - harry
extinguish - put out
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 too easy I know 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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I started off with it, but it slugged my computer every afternoon despite being told it could scan at a specific time. Dumping it for Kaspersky got rid of the problem and (once you tell it to elephant the adverts) it's given me no problems. The "country specific" installation and pricing is a PITA though!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I was running Kaspersky for a long time on all of my family's computers, then dumped that, because it would still hose the computer unless a person was running games or pulled the plug temporarily to let Kaspersky think you were in low power mode. I haven't seen any options to stop scanning otherwise.
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Thank you for your answer OG...
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I'm using Windows Defender at work in a development environment with VS2017 and have no issues (so far  )
Before I used AVG which worked fine too once you excluded the VS directories from scanning ...
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Nice, thank you for your answer Rick...
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Interesting. Do you happen to know whether excluding a directory is possible with the free version of AVG? If so, I haven't found it yet.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Thank you very much. That is very helpful!
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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For peace of mind I also run a Malwarebytes scan once a week(I use the free versionf Malwarebytes).
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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That is important... yes, but I do that whichever AV is installed... Thank you Guy!
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The built-in Windows Defender indeed is "good enough" for me not to want to spend money on a commercial AV.
The only thing I despise about it is the fact that the AV signature updates are coupled with the rest of the Windows updates. This means that, as I've configured WU to tell me about available updates rather than just going ahead and installing whatever's available, I get prompted to install AV signatures 2-3 times a day.
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It is a pity they don't have it separated... 
Thank you for your answer!
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Other AV-software is better and has newer signatures. I also like to have the AV from other than Microsoft.
Believe it or not: I use Avast for years now. (it is always and in any tests the top ranks)
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Yes, usually I would say the same... but the current marks of Microsoft AV in AV-Test look good...
Anyway, AVAST seems to be the one to choose from the free ones...
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I'm happy with windows defender, it's enough and relax.
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The problem with Windows Defender is that it's a good anti-virus.
This may sound strange, but keep in mind that it's ONLY an anti-virus.
Got a hijacked browser extension changing your home page and underlining random links?
Sorry - That's Adware - "Resolved - Will Not Detect"
Got an illicit application that's sending a third party all your key pressed and passwords?
Sorry - That's a Trojan - "Resolved - Will Not Detect"
A program lurking on your PC that's happily encrypting all your files for a required payment?
Sorry - That's Ransomware - "Resolved - Will Not Detect"
Yes - Windows Defender is a good Anti Virus - But it's only an Anti-Virus to things that Microsoft specifically classifies AS viruses - Anything else will be specifically ignored.
I used to have a list of virustotal links that contained situations where most of the results were "Positive", but "Negative" to Windows Defender since it wasn't considered strictly a virus - Things like this [^] were alarmingly common. You know that wave of Steam viruses awhile back? All negative since they're 'technically' not viruses, but application hijackers (Positive to every other AV though). Here[^] is one of my submission links to one of them - Still marked as "No malware detected" 3 years later...
I submitted dozens of samples of known viruses to them (I was doing Malware research for awhile), and almost all of the submissions were "No malware detected", or marked as clean, or some such. NOD32, AVG, Kaspersky, and BitDefender all added the definitions within a week of submission - Windows Defender refused to add most of them due to its super-strict definition of "virus".
I currently use NOD32 and am very happy with it.
-= Reelix =-
modified 6-Apr-18 7:01am.
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as a NOD32 user... I concur. I have been quite happy with the speed and performance.
So much so, I don't bother turning it off when I install trusted software!
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One problem depends on the Browser's security.
The rest depend on not getting the "problem" "installed" in the first place; you're talking about situations where the machine is already infected.
An ounch of prevention is not the same as a "cure" (for an already infected machine).
Been using MS since XP; with notifications and updates / scans on demand.
Found others who got "prompted" forever after, once their subscriptions expired and they didn't have the rights to remove obsolete "expired" AV software. That's fun.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Reelix wrote: I was doing Malware research for awhile
It seems you know what you are speaking about...
I'm using now bitdefender free... It looks nice by the numbers and I'm satisfied with it...
I've not been able to find it's specifications though... so not been able to compare it...
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I've never used anything other than the Windows Defender that comes with Windows. I did try Norton and Mcfee for a short time. They did no better and gave me lots of problems, so I got rid of then after a couple of weeks. Windows Defender seems to do just fine and interefere with fewer things!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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