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Flat Earther denied rocket launch[^]
I think this would be for his own good only. If you think this can instigate Soapbox-y discussion, I can move it there.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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I think Leslie has been there lately: ^
"I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle
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Earth is so 2nd millennium. I am a flat Universer[^]. Wonder how high I need to fly to observe that, though 
modified 27-Nov-17 8:47am.
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While the Universe is flat, its topology is that of a doughnut. I have discovered a proof of this, but the Universe does not contain enough room to write it down.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Oh well ... it is nothing to get steamed up about. It's a fine kettle of fish if he fails.
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So my guess in the other thread as to the likely outcome of this seems more likely now.
"He built his first manned rocket in 2014, the Associated Press reported, and managed to fly a quarter-mile over Winkelman, Ariz.
As seen in a YouTube video, the flight ended with Hughes being dragged, moaning, from the remains of the rocket. The injuries he suffered put him in a walker for two weeks, he said."
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jschell wrote: Winkelman, Ariz.
'Nuff said.
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Coming soon: You have a VR fender-bender while trying to find a space, and your insurance company takes your deductible directly from your real-world account...
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Seems highly unlikely. The purveyors of death would love to get their product out in the media again; they'd see it as a good thing.
Even if it's a case of, "we're going to make anti-smoking ads, and we're going to make the tobacco industry pay for them". 
"There's no such thing as bad press."
modified 26-Nov-17 14:01pm.
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Yes, it's true.
According to the NYT, the messages stem from a lawsuit brought by the Justice Department in 1999. As part of the 2006 ruling in the suit, which sought to punish cigarette makers for decades of deceiving the public about the dangers of their product, the companies were ordered to disseminate "corrective statements" centered on the health risks and addictive nature of smoking. But until now, they resisted through appeals and by wrangling over wording.
Here's Altria's press release[^] of 2 Oct 2017.
/ravi
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What the hell are we screwing around at, if we have decided tobacco is bad then ban it, immediately.
Job done, no more farting around with how or where it is advertised, what colour the packet is, where you can and cannot smoke etc.
modified 27-Nov-17 4:21am.
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Yeah well, if people were so smart how in the hell did we get reality TV?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: if we have decided tobacco is bad then ban it, immediately.
.. along with alcoholic drinks, sugar-based drinks, artificial sweeteners, trans-fats, caffeine, sweets, MSG, oil, petrol, diesel, many plastics, aerosols and a whole heap of other things which are unarguably bad for us.
While we're at it, let's ban the sale of raw chicken unless anyone tries to eat it without cooking it. Is this really a risk we can afford to be taking?
Alternatively, we could just abandon the whole nanny state concept and treat people like adults. If we die, we die - surely a victory of sorts for evolution.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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PeejayAdams wrote: along with alcoholic drinks
No, there is known benefit to drinking alcohol.
PeejayAdams wrote: sugar-based drinks
Sugar is not healthy, but lack of exercise is the key issue in type 2 diabetes, so rather than sugar, ban transport!
PeejayAdams wrote: artificial sweeteners
No health risk.
PeejayAdams wrote: trans-fats
Werent they banned already? 
PeejayAdams wrote: caffeine
No, it has no health risk.
PeejayAdams wrote: sweets
Already covered that
PeejayAdams wrote: MSG
For those who dont like Chinese Food Syndrome, dont eat Chinese food! 
PeejayAdams wrote: oil, petrol, diesel
Now you are being silly.
PeejayAdams wrote: we could just abandon the whole nanny state
So you think heroin, cocaine, meth, opium, crack, LSD, hash, shroooms, PCP, angel dust, etc etc etc should be legal?
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It comes as a mighty relief to hear that tobacco is the only legal thing that's bad for us.
Whether that's proof or disproof that we live in age of excessive health and safety policies is up for debate, I guess
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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PeejayAdams wrote: Whether that's proof or disproof that we live in age of excessive health
Longevity?
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Well - maybe not the only legal thing that's bad for us, but, on the other hand, it's the only one that received public welfare[^]
Basically, it's a Communist plot by the right-wing tobacco growers - the government tax dollars going into keeping them in business.
Actually, the real problem with the TV adverts penalty is that it should also extract the money paid over the years (in this socialist-inspired mess!) from those fine patriotic American tobacco growers who'd never have taken demanded a government handout if they had know that (were it not going to them) would be a horrific interference by the government in the running of their business.
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PeejayAdams wrote: and treat people like adults.
However, when it comes to tobacco, most people get addicted as a youth.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You know why, you are just being bloody obtuse. Too much money involved over too long a period.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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There used to be money in Opium too, in fact the UK govt went to war to protect its opium market.
There is sufficient will today to ban tobacco. Any govt with a pair should just do so. And 99% of smokers, while panicking at the thought, actually would feel grateful in their heart of hearts.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: And 99% of smokers, while panicking at the thought, actually would feel grateful in their heart of hearts.
Very much so. We'd save a bloody fortune.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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It is staggering how much some people spend on cigarettes. I have a friend who has little income, yet smokes 40 a day. That is a staggering 15 euros a day, 100 a week. As much as food!
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