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I don't think it's a matter of being lazy. I can't imagine trying to support packages unique to each card and OS version and then dealing with irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running. I would guess a driver package for a specific card model or generation of cards and OS version would be between 10 and 20% of what they have but the support requirements would be the inverse of that - 5 to 10 times more.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rick York wrote: irate customers who don't know what video card they have or what OS version they are running
The "GeForce Experience" app, which you are required to use to install the drivers, knows which card and OS you have.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No, that is not required. I installed the latest version just last night and it is optional. You are right though, the type of customer who doesn't know those things should and likely will install that.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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yeha.. thats good!
I think the "expirience" app is total bullshit..
like messing up my carefully finetuned ingame graphic settings, because.. it knows better...
and not even telling.. me about it.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: What on earth could it possibly include that it's that large?
Easy: non-driver stuff.
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All those pre-rendered bitmaps to make it look good on benchmarks?
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Did you check how large the installed binary drivers are on your specific machine?
GeForce may have a record breaking InstallerSize/BinaryDriverSize ratio, but I've seen some really bad cases in other software as well.
As others have pointed out, default installation options may include applications that you don't really need. You may uncheck the option, or you may delete the applications any time after installation. Usually, a plain application can be deleted with no consequences for other software, and if you find out it really was needed, most installers can do a repair / reinstall task to get it back.
Note: I am talking about Windows! On a *nix system, you should be extremely careful! Never trust that because you never touch some application or tool, you can delete it. You can be 99% sure that even if you never use, say, a scripting language, so you want to free up disk space by deleting its interpreter. Half a year later, some different installer crashes badly with a cryptic error message because it "knows" (erroneously) that the interpreter is present. It probably was included in your *nix distro, and no one would be so crazy that they remove any part of the distro, would they?
So, I have learned the hard way: Never ever try to "clean up" your *nix installation, especially regarding software development tools. Limit cleanups to you private data files, and leave the rest untouched!
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trønderen wrote: eally bad cases in other software as well
*cough* Adobe *cough* Printer drivers *cough cough*
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ATI Catalyst back in the 200x's were 130 MB so...
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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They probably include optimizations for each game, well, at least the ones that pay them to do that.
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GeForce Experience, feel free to uninstall it if you don't need it (I like it's video recording capability).
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They've based it on Electron so it's cross-platform...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Maybe the graphics card is a dummy and they do everything via software?!
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Plus there's the whole manycore parallel supercomputer thing. Might take a few megabytes for that.
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I'm back.
"Hello world".
--edit
I post using my real name, and I was an addict.
Morphine was my drug.
modified 13-Oct-21 18:35pm.
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Did we miss you? 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Prolly not 
Something like a nosebleed.
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It took you that long to code "Hello World"? Career change maybe? 
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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I would not mind a career change 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Now, having read Mycroft's post I feel terrible about my post. I do remember, now, your post about having substance problems.
Good to hear you are making it one day at a time, keep it up.
Again my apologies at being flippant.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: Now, having read Mycroft's post I feel terrible about my post.
I'm not Also looked like a bit of a jest, since 22 days for "hello world" would indeed be a bit of.. underwhelming
MarkTJohnson wrote: Good to hear
Tx
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Welcome back
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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tx for that
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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