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with their latest debacle last straw that has me finally sh*t-canning firefox.
but there's things that I liked in ff that chrome and others (played with opera yesterday too) just don't do, or don't do right.
getting desparate... perhaps a firefox branch???
well: I'm on Pale Moon and loving it.
OK not so many extensions available (but got the important stuff like ad-blocker).
"Expert" reviews said it's firefox a few versions ago...
(and ** warning warning, it's behind in security patches, up to 9 days behind! warning warning **.)
well my finding: it's not "firefox a few versions back." well OK it sort-of is, but it isn't, not by a mile.
there's none of the mozilla.org crap (pocket, removing features such as asking to save on exit, and all the "mozilla thinks you're to stupid so we removed it" preferences are there... way way way less mozilla sh*t and stupidity
it's actually firefox done properly: ff for the users, not the marketing dept (which apparently is what's killing moz)
"9 days behind on security patches" - OFFS, please, 99.999% of 'security patches' are obscure tiny crap that only happens if you go to obscure crap websites and do something that anyone with more than half a brain cell wouldn't do regardless of where you're at, (stupid is...)
OIOW: FARK OFF "EXPERTS" fark off and while you're farked off how about wiping down all them certificates that your wanking reviews and in-your-dreams useful advice ex-spurted all over.
oh and the other good thing about pale moon: it's not goggle chrome (aka the new "internet explorer")
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Chrome is the only browser I use personally.
Um, I guess give FF a bit of time to get their act together, etc. and then try them again? I would not write them off completely. Have they not been a great browser over the years for the most part? your post is too long and I am to lazy to read the whole book. 
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I am curious what was that debacle? I got fed-up with FF. I like the Vivaldi browser, and occasionally go Chrome.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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basically some certificate screw up that cause every add-on to be disabled .. EVERY add-on, not just some, every single add-on. 1 day later they suggested a temporary work-around that worked for maybe 25% of the users, few days on they've supposedly released an update but even then they admitted it was incomplete and would only help some people.
have you tried running your browser without adblock (or whatver blocker you use)? and all those other extensions/add-ons you don't even think about anymore, even the simple ones.
not fun at all,
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It's been fixed now. All add-ons work.
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I have an old version of FireFox running because it no longer supports some of the add-ons I like (like FireFTP).
Today - and I mean during the day - somehow they updated my FireFox (same old version) and it no longer will run my Adblocker or web-beacon handler. Just like that.
Interestingly, they are now allowing trash into my system that invades my privacy, like the web beacons because the think that 'unsigned' add-ons might violate my privacy by transmitting information.
Especially doing this without a word or warning or permission, they crossed the line.
Morons.
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same, had an older version of ff (for the "save on quit warning" that they removed because: just because.
(apparently from comments from mozdev putting it back is completely new work, that tells me how f-uped mozilla dev is).
so they've "fixed the add-ons issue" ...but only by downloading a new version - NO THANKS.
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Just installed WaterFox (using it now).
It seemed a bit finicky at the install in terms of bringing in my FireFox settings - but all of my plugins are now plugged in. It seemed to happen in relays, maybe various internal rests.
So far, so good.
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Lopatir wrote: Pale Moon
Try the Speed Start add-on. Bloody brilliant, and incredibly flexible. And if you make a few folders, you can add links to each inside the other folders -- make the links so small that you only see the title, and you can build a menu with them.
I also really appreciate the Dismiss The Overlay add-on.
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ahh, a fellow moonie.
my only regret: didn't do this earlier.
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The only thing it seems to be lacking is all the things I didn't like about firefox.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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To be a self-made man, do you need an Oedipus complex, and a time machine?
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could also be done with a cloning tank and killing yourself.
caution: bench test first, potential infinite loop if variables initialized in the wrong place
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Ick?!?!?!
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Depends where ego with id. Somehow, though, I think the whole thing sphinx.
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If you were a self-made man, how would you know?
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You would also need a sex-change if you want to impregnate yourself. That's actually the story-line of a movie, which features the song "I'm my own grandpa".
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Robert Heinlein wrote a story called "-- All You Zombies --"[^] where the lead character was his own father and mother.
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What is it with some .NET developers and their desire to segregate their project into a billion different DLLs?
Nobody wants to install that. Nobody wants to deal with that. Stop it.
Is it a server application? No? Then go soak your head.
With a particular side-eye toward MonoTorrent.
Edit: I see I'm not alone in this sentiment. I thought I might have been a lone voice in the wilderness here. To the people that disagree, you raise some valid points, but I think context is important - there's a time and a place for lots of DLLs (like server code) and times when it's overdone. I'll cede that if you will.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: What is it with some .NET developers and their desire to segregate their project into a billion different DLLs?
Nobody wants to install that. Nobody wants to deal with that. Stop it.
Whenever I need to update part of the project, I simply upload the stuff that changed. Means that an update only affects what is changed. Keeps the download small (looking at you Steam!), makes the parts easier to manage.
I don't like to redownload a complete setup that contains 10Gb of crap that is already there. So please, keep it as modular.
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that's fair but i'm talking about lots of little 16k dlls and such.
if you can't manage that much source in a single project, there's something wrong with the way you're factoring your code, IMO.
Adding, with small apps that need to update I just make them update themselves by bootstrap
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: that's fair but i'm talking about lots of little 16k dlls and such.
Which is perfect.
Do consider that a library is loaded on demand (when the runtime requires it). Put everything in an exe, and it is all loaded into memory before being executed.
It's not like an end-user need to know ANYTHING about what is present in the installation-folder, nor does the end-user need to manipulate those libs.
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i think it's a matter of degree. I'd put - for .NET - perfect being somewhere in the neighborhood of 150k and up, assuming generics are being used.
Adding, my criticism of the installbase is more from a dev and maintenance perspective. Sometimes there's such thing as overfactoring.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: i think it's a matter of degree. I'd put - for .NET - perfect being somewhere in the neighborhood of 150k and up, assuming generics are being used.
Adding, my criticism of the installbase is more from a dev and maintenance perspective. Sometimes there's such thing as overfactoring.
Ah, did you expect my perspective to be that of a dairy-farmer?
Sometimes I preload a DLL by calling a static method that does nothing. Forces the runtime to load the assembly and all its types. It makes life easier. Why would you prefer big executables containing duplicate code over that?
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i meant as opposed to an end user's perspective
i just prefer to factor assemblies by related task.
i'm not sure what others do.
If I find myself with a little bit of redundancy at the source level, I have a mechanism for "includes" in C#.
If I find myself with a lot of it, that's where a separate assembly comes in.
YMMV
I don't see 150k as particularly large. .NET allocates 12 megabytes of heap as its way of saying "hi!"
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