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I class myself as an Engineer as to quote some one 'Scientists look at the unknown, Engineers create the unknown' Wish I could remember the quote accurately...
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glennPattonWork wrote: Wish I could remember the quote accurately...
Quote: "Last week I couldn't spell 'enjunear', and now I are one!"
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why isn't there a smile that thinks
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Yeah - not quite right.
Scientist look for the unknown and discover or create it.
Engineers optimize what the scientists find.
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As my man Shakespeare put it back in 1602: "A programmer by any other name would produce as many bugs."
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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One has a capital 'D', the other a capital 'E' in the title. 
The difference says nothing meaningful about the type of work you'll be doing. For that you either need to read the rest of the job description or gasp actually communicate with the recruiter/hiring manager to get more information. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Possibly used an excuse to give two people doing the same thing different pay.
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Up to now it was for me not more than the question what word to put on the business cards. I still wish I had gotten the cards with the title 'wizard'.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Depending on where you live, you can only be an engineer (by title) if you are registered as one.
For example, in Québec I cannot be called a software engineer because I am not a registered engineer.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: For example, in Québec I cannot be called a software engineer because I am not a registered engineer.
Probably for the best. Given the frequency of news reports coming out of the province on crumbling infrastructure (bridges declared unsafe and needing emergency repairs, chunks of overpasses falling onto incoming traffic, heck, the Olympic stadium in Montreal), it seems that "engineer" in Quebec has become a dirty word.
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super wrote:
So what is the difference between too in a software Company.
Ego.
If someone insists on one over the other, you probably don't want to work with them anyway.
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In many jurisdictions, Engineer is a professional title like Doctor is for an M.D..
Calling yourself an Engineer without being a state registered Professional Engineer (P.E.) can lead to fraud charges.
Most of the true P.E.s I have seen in software typically work on control systems and the like.
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I have no idea, but I do know the difference between a mathematician and an engineer.
Week 1:
Researcher brings in a mathematician and an engineer into the lab. There are two stoves with a pot of water on each. He tells them to boil the water, so they both go over and turn the stoves on high and soon enough, each has a pot of boiling water.
Week 2:
Same researcher, mathematician, and engineer in the same lab. This time the pots are on the shelf. The researcher gives them the same instruction - boil a pot of water. The engineer grabs a pot, fills it from the sink in the lab, and puts it on the stove. He then turns the stove on and soon has a boiling pot of water. The mathematician goes to the shelf, grabs a pot, fills it with water and then puts it on the stove. After a few minutes, the researcher asks the mathematician why he stopped at that point. The mathematician responds "I proved you can boil the water from this state last week."
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Hi,
My entire career I have used Desktop PC's now for some reason they want us to all have laptops because the third party firm who does our IT is dropping support for desk tops! I have used laptops when I have been on site and or working remotely and found them odd & hard to use. I prefer a desktop machine it makes life easier for what I do (mostly working on kit that plugs in), lappy's are not as reliable and I think the make we will be blessed with suffers from a well known issue with the USB bus. When this third party IT firm took over support they asked us what we wanted I got a desktop (so did pretty much everyone else, I think this laptop thing was to make life easier for one the software bosses, who now works remotely so we all have to have one... Why does this company make life so bloomin' awkward.
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glennPattonWork wrote: why are they taking my Work Desktop
Because its portable
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Why, I mean I work on kit that you need a fork lift to move the very definition of not mobile. It's strange I mean why???
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because you become portable too
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Shhhh...or they'll turn everything into VDI, too.
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One the best, as we were being forced over to this networking company, the came around and had a fit to see we had 'hacker technology on our desks', I have taken some time to figure out what 'hacker technology' was it meant we had network switches, USB Ethernet ports and other useful stuff. 
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Our group has a policy - if you are a GS (gov employee), you get a laptop. If you get a laptop, they take your desktop away.
Problem - for the devs, this is especially bad because the laptops only have 4GB of RAM, while the desktops have 32gb RAM. 4GB RAM + Win10 + SSMS does not make for a pleasant experience.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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But it does bring your efficiency in line with other gov't workers.
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#realJSOP wrote: 4GB RAM + Win10 + SSMS
You can probably take SSMS out of that equation. Win10 with just 4GB is already bad enough on its own.
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Quote: if you are a GS (gov employee), you get a laptop. If you get a laptop, they take your desktop away.
I once worked at a company where a senior management ukase said there would be one workstation per employee. However, different systems were developed on different workstations, and some people worked on more than one system. One of these folks wrote a bulletin saying that it was also frivolous to have more one chair per employee. It contained a brief Q&A section that went something like
Q. What about chairs in conference rooms?
A. Each employee will be assigned a chair with wheels.
Senior management were deeply offended but the ukase was rescinded.
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that means the make it easier to work from home,
so when the laptop arrives and ready tell the boss you're off to do work in a better envonment.
anyway more serious, do you get to add/keep your external monitor?
how about external keyboard/mouse - gonna need those (wireless)
finally insist on nothing less than 8th gen CPU (10th gen only sightly better but 7th and below is like a barge against the wind on high seas) AND 1TB SSD AND 16GB RAM, otherwise it'll be a nightmare. And avoid AMD, yes a bit faster but a bit buggier too.
(If missing any of the above just open chrome + VS to show them it's a POS.)
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