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Visual Studio 2017 is now nagging me to update to 2019 and 2019 core 3.0 isn't even released yet. (winforms designer is broke last time i checked)
First the start of christmas season gets dragged to practically july by the retail folks and now this.
Everyone's in such a rush. GOTTA GET THERE BEFORE THE DOORS OPEN ZOMG.
Visual studio 2017 works for me just fine until you actually RELEASE the next version, MS.
Your prerelease installs never upgrade properly to the releases anyway, so putting them on your machine just hoses it for down the road 
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
modified 6-Sep-19 13:00pm.
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Indeed.
Software Zen: delete this;
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maybe i'm thinking of core 3.0
because the winforms designer didn't work last time i checked.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Yes, Core 3 is supposed to be released at .NET Conf, which is 23rd-25th September:
Announcing .NET Core 3.0 Preview 9 | .NET Blog[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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hopefully the winforms designer works by then. winforms is kinda nonsense without it - may as well use XAML
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the codewitch wrote: may as well use XAML
No!!! 
/ravi
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it's funny (not really).
We tried upgrading to VS2019 (C++/MFC) last week and it was the first time that we needed to revert back because of a C++ compiler bug.
I'd rather be phishing!
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see, someone else just said it was released, and technically they're right, but it's still not done.
like that. or the fact that core 3.0 winforms doesn't work in the designer yet last i heard.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Thanks for the warning. I will resume my holding pattern.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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: cough : VS 2010 : cough :
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i never used that one. i guess i should count myself lucky.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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It's the most recent usable version.
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good luck with that.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Decent is spelt with a "d"
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: VS 2010
 My favorite! Unfortunately, the need for bright and shiny new widgets is forcing me to newer frameworks and more bloated, slower IDEs.  That's progress for you.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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VS2k8 was mine. It was solid, and ran on anything. The C++ compiler wasn't bad either. MS is usually hit and miss about that last bit.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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For what it's worth, our primary development tool is VS2008. Three years ago we had an abortive attempt at updating to VS2015.
Software Zen: delete this;
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VS2k8 was solid. I used it for years.
Edit: I *still* use it for VST development
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Install a pre-release version?
With ms products, it's best to wait until at least SP2.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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i agree with the caveat that microsoft has bad luck with release N of anything where N=4
SP4 is a dog.
Windows "4" (win95) was a dog
Nt4 was alright, but NT4 SP4 was so bad it had to be recalled.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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It prompted me to install 2019 this morning. The funny (or not funny) part is that I already have 2019 installed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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same although i haven't used mine except to check if it fixed a broken thing my vs2017 install is experiencing.
Nope. So on the shelf it goes. Next time i upgrade VS i'm wiping my machine
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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VS 2019 is released, and works fine; why would expect to use the WinForms ToolBox/Designer directly with Core 3.x ?
See: [^]
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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