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Thanks to the visual studio 15.3 update debacle I'm doing a full system reinstall so I can go back to update 2 and actually get some work done.
I'm running windows 10 under bootcamp on my MacBook and so was writing a long email while repartitioning the drive.
I'm almost at the end of the email when mac pops up a window asking for my password to 'make some changes'. Given that macOS asks for your password every 30 seconds (the irony of those 'I'm a mac / I'm a PC ads is thick and ripe) I enter my password without thinking.
And so macOS reboots the machine. No warning. No prompt to save my work. No nothing. Poof.
I'm sorry I ever gave you a hard time Windows.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: And so macOS reboots the machine. No warning. No prompt to save my work. No nothing. Poof.
/ravi
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Chris Maunder wrote: visual studio 15.3 update debacle
Chris Maunder wrote: running windows 10 under bootcamp on my MacBook
I am reminded of the expression "fighting fire with gasoline."
Marc
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Quote: I'm almost at the end of the email when mac pops up a window asking for my password to 'make some changes'.
If such notification dialog box (e.g. 'making some changes') has appeared, you should have never enter a password immediately. Instead, all what you have needed is to save all your work done and then confirm making those system-wide changes such as performing the hard drive partitioning. Normally, it's not a good practice to do some work on the machine that is currently performing the system maintenance tasks. It basically refers to either using of the latest Windows 10 or other OS, and macOS Sierra as well. Thou, under Windows 10 there's a software that makes this process more intelligent. For example, Paragon Hard Disk Manager when run directly under Windows (not booted from usb stick drive), to backup a system partition, first creates and inf-file for batch processing, and right after asks to restart the computer. When computer is booting up the next time, it executes the inf-file that starts the backup utility or partitioner. After system specific tasks are completed it performs a final reboot with all changes made.
And also, when macOS Sierra is about to apply system-wide changes such as updates, a tiny dialog appears on the upper right corner of the desktop, notifying that it's time to reboot your machine. Normally, the following process won't continue and the system will not reboot until you've toggled a button within this dialog. So be careful with it. 
Since you've typed in a e-mail message text, probably there should have been an auto-save for the document you've created. I mean that probably a temporary file was created at a certain location under macOS system partition and has been updated timely. Just search for this file, it must contain the document you've created.
modified 21-Aug-17 0:59am.
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Arthur V. Ratz wrote: you should have never enter a password immediately
Did you notice my comment about macOS asking for your password every 30 seconds? The OS trains you to just enter it and move on. I still to this day get angry when I think about how disparaging Apple was to Microsoft during the Vista days and then look at how macOS has become the master of needlessly asking for passwords.
Arthur V. Ratz wrote: a tiny dialog appears on the upper right corner of the desktop
Not if you're manually updating the OS.
Maybe I didn't explain myself: I start an OS update (that takes quite a while) and while it installs I'm typing an email. A 'enter your password' prompt comes up with the wording that it wants to 'make some changes'. Not 'restart the machine'. So I'm assuming it's writing some system level files and soon it'll ask me to restart the machine - at which time I'll fire off the email and let it restart. It didn't prompt the restart - it immediately restarted with zero warning.
It's not earth shaking, but it was interesting to me given the angst surrounding windows 10 restarts that have everyone up in arms. It was a 'wow - windows at least gives you a fighting chance'
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Additionally, it's not a good practice to make some kind of the hard drive partitions layout changes if the hard drive contains another system partition for the other OS. To reinstall Windows 10 the all you should have to do is to run Windows 10 setup and select a logical drive previously formatted to setup Windows 10. In this case, if you have done that, Windows 10 would just have been setup (e.g. re-installed) to the existing logical drive in which it was installed before). Also, there's no need to re-created those three small system-specific partitions such either Recovery or EFI partitions for that purpose.
Also, I would recommend to setup and schedule the conventional Windows Backup that will create whatever incremental or shadow copy of your Windows system drive. The incremental copy is recommended in this case, since you're using MacBook with a limited free space on your hard drive. 
Here's a quick recipe you can use for a next time:
If you need to re-install Windows 10 running under BootCamp on macOS machine, just do the following:
0. Boot up your machine under Windows 10;
1. Download and install Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium;
2. Re-partition hard drive to exactly meet your requirements.
(Note: don't make changes to system specific logical drives (such as EFI or Recovery), it
might permanently damage both systems Windows 10 and macOS, so that none of those will
properly boot up);
3. Under Paragon HDD Manager, apply those changes made.
(Note: probably it will ask to reboot. Then save all your work and do so). It will smartly
make all those changes made);
That's all folks.
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With respect I disagree.
I wasn't making partition changes: I was nuking my entire windows install back to the metal. I definitely did not want to use windows to reinstall windows. I also don't see the need to install more software to do something that macOS was perfectly capable of doing (nuke bootcamp partition, reinstall bootcamp and Windows).
The bootcamp / windows stuff in macOS is seamless and very quick for me - no complaints at all with the process.
On the topic of backups I only backup files, never the OS. OS corruptions, malware, viruses, screwed up settings - I have no need for these . I love a fresh OS install. It's like a blank canvas for mayhem.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Dual boot is old school. Virtual machines are your friends.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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Except when you aren't willing to take the perf hit. Or when you just aren't a fan of the host OS...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Perf hit is minimal when I run VM on SSD connected by thunderbolt.
Can't fix the dislike though. My choice is the third OS, also doing VM's.
To each his own, or somesuch.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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theoldfool wrote: Perf hit is minimal
That's good to know! What are you using? I was considering VM Fusion on macOS but am open to suggestions.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I use Fusion on my 2.5 year old MBP when on the road, even did a codecamp pitch with it. Was an hour into it before someone asked me if it was a VM. Mostly, I run VM's on ESXi and VMWare Workstation on Linux. I do small Office add-ins, console applications (accessing files on Sharepoint), network stuff and such, so I don't run into long compile times.
Although some stuff does not do well in a VM, VS does not seem to be one of them.
Nobody in their right mind would test my programs on a real Windows machine. 
Lou
Thanks for reminding me MC
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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I will give it a burl. Thanks mate.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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He was a good comedian and an icon for many, but the truth is, he was real a**hole in life and many people are glad he is gone. Just saying...
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Must be a generation thing, 'cuz I never cared for him--and it's not like I don't have the ability to recognize and appreciate "the classics".
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The guy was 91 and most of his best work was probably 60 years ago. I'm not sure JLs stuff qualifies as classic, slapstick comedy doesn't have the gravitas of most other genres.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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True enough - still, I can appreciate the comic genius of the likes of Charlie Chaplin and Laurel and Hardy, even if they were, to a large extent, slapstick, and also look dated today. But I always thought Jerry Lewis's antics were just...dumb.
But who am I to disparage him in a thread announcing his death.
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![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) the world has lost a great philanthropist and comedian.
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