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Munchies_Matt wrote: Yes, and one of the first use of robots, as we see today, is in the sex industry, where relationships are by mature much closer with man, and such feelings more likely to arise.
First military then you're probably right about the sex aspect. God help us!
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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"Damn, they sent me the military one!"
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You on Santa's hit list eh?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Damn militant sex robots
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Mike Hankey wrote: Damn militant sex robots
Singing "Lay down your arms and surrender to mine"? 
(No. 1 in the UK charts in 1956.)
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Not a bad lifestyle. When do we start! 
You will do no such thing! The tinmen will have captains who defend their rights[^].
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Not a bad lifestyle. When do we start!
We?? I don't know. I think I'll be living a life of leisure. So you go on build the robots and start sending checks via the government.
Cheerio.
T.
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Those who do work will get paid of course, in addition to the basic maintenance cash every one gets.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: I can envision a future where robots do almost all the manual work, and crucially, they are payed a wage and taxed at 100% on it. ie, the company employing them pays, at a reduced rate, the commensurate wage a person would have received, direct to the government as tax.
Then you will be paying tax every time you use a computer to do any manual work - like accounting.
You will be paying chauffeur fees for self-driving cars.
You will not receive any reduction in price for efficiencies derived from automation (cheaper food, cheaper production of vehicles, etc).
In effect, you will have to get a job, because we all know the government won't pass that tax back to you - unless you plan on living on welfare.
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Pualee wrote: Then you will be paying tax every time you use a computer to do any manual work - like accounting.
Is a computer a robot?
Pualee wrote: You will be paying chauffeur fees for self-driving cars.
Probably. Today you pay a driver, and he pays tax.
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Explain to me how come MicroSoft isn't already required to do this for every license of Word which put thousands of secretaries out of work?
All a robot does is enhance productivity. Do we tax everything that enhances productivity?
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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We havent got to that future yet.
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Only humans would think robots are a great idea in regards to helping us and furthering our species.
IMHO, we deserve every single bad thing that will come of this, a thousand times over. I also believe, that very few good things will ever come of this.
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A robot is just a machine. It might look clever, but underneath it is just a machine, and it is the engineers who built it that are the geniuses, just ad Babbage was, and the inventor of the spinning jenny.
So, since mechanisation has helped us immensely, giving us an incredible lifestyle today, why not continue the trend?
And, what ill has befallen us because of past mechanisation that makes you think future mechanisation will?
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Many, many uneducated and/or less skilled people are losing and will continue to lose their jobs to robots and automated mechanization - that is a fact. This will put more of a strain on the welfare system in my country, and perhaps, the world's welfare system (if they have one).
Now you introduce AI, and that adds an infinite set of variables to the mix. As AI become more powerful, then what would happen if AI went awry? Speculation on my part, yes, but still a valid scenario outcome.
There are and will continue to be benefits to this robot stuff, but I think the negative will outweigh the good. My opinion.
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One interesting effect will be the re-onshoring of labour in the developed first world countries, ie those who are going to robotise first.
Anyway, yes, AI and all that, the robots attack, terminator, I Robot and so on. Lots of sci-fi there, not sure if there is much basis in reality for it.
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"We're going to automate everything and make the robots pay for it"?
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You got it. 
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For a start you seem to assume a robot is sentient, good luck with that one, if it is not sentient then it has no rights and no requirement for wages/recompense.
Compensating someone (Govt) for using a robot to do the work is not going to happen, it isn't today, why would you think it will in the future. A completely different economic model is going to have to be invented to achieve your vision.
And if you think the corporates are going to abdicate the money management to a govt your nuts. A production tax may be one way to go!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: you seem to assume a robot is sentient, good luck with that one
You seem to much, I dont.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: it has no rights and no requirement for wages
Of course not, but it has to be treated as if it does in order to generate revenue the govt will need to pay the ex-manual labourers unemployment money, at a decent rate.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: why would you think it will in the future
Legislation.
And why not? Is this not a better world? No more manual, dull labour. Those people get to sit around, play golf, spend the day in the pub. Let the robots do their work.
Those who enjoy their work, the artists, the professionals, will quite happily continue working.
And we will all live like plantation owners of the past, in luxury, because at the bottom of society will be an army of metal slaves, working for us.
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I see "money and goods" being shuffled around; I didn't see anyone "buying" anything.
The take is that "robots" can produce goods out of nothing; and produce revenue from goods that nobody buys; and said revenue is then distributed to the masses; to buy the goods produced from nothing.
Sounds like this is where Bitcoin comes in: fake money for fake goods.
Moore's law (because it is starting to fail) predicts a depression / recession: what to do with all the "labor" when the next "IPhone" isn't "better" than the previous and no one wants to upgrade.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: The take is that "robots" can produce goods out of nothing; and produce revenue from goods that nobody buys;
No, they would be goods produced today, that people buy. Just produced by robots.
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