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19-Jan-17 22:18

My 950XL which, only yesterday, I was singing the praises of to all and sundry, has decided that today it will get stuck in a reboot-loop. Overnight software upgrade didn't go too well D'Oh! | :doh:

User 274316219-Jan-17 22:20

User 2743162

19-Jan-17 22:20

Are you talking about new insider build?

modified 19-Nov-18 21:01pm.

Duncan Edwards Jones19-Jan-17 22:31

19-Jan-17 22:31

Yup 15014.

Some fettling required.

User 274316219-Jan-17 22:41

User 2743162

19-Jan-17 22:41

Updated my 1520 few hours ago ... so far no (new) issues

modified 19-Nov-18 21:01pm.

Duncan Edwards Jones20-Jan-17 0:28

20-Jan-17 0:28

The reboots have become less frequent so I guess something is happening behind the scenes

Mark_Wallace20-Jan-17 2:30

Mark_Wallace

20-Jan-17 2:30

Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
I guess something is happening behind the scenes

Yes, it's getting ready to explode.

Not planning on flying, are you?

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Duncan Edwards Jones20-Jan-17 2:36

20-Jan-17 2:36

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Not planning on flying, are you?

Today? You have got to be kidding...

den2k8819-Jan-17 22:25

den2k88

19-Jan-17 22:25

Call me old but I don't upgrade without checking the changelogs if the new features are needed or not. Too many experiences of destructive updates...

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Daniel Pfeffer19-Jan-17 23:10

Daniel Pfeffer

19-Jan-17 23:10

The Unspeakable Law:
As soon as you mention something, if it is good - it goes away; if it is bad - it happens.

If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.

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Nathan Minier20-Jan-17 1:16

Nathan Minier

20-Jan-17 1:16

Thanks for the warning.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli

Evolution of "Hello World"

GenJerDan20-Jan-17 2:09

GenJerDan

20-Jan-17 2:09

Hopefully, any fixes coming down the pipe will fix what's wrong with mine lately.

In Facebook messenger, if I try to activate the camera to send my wife a selfie or whatever, the Messenger app closes.

I don't know if it's the camera (which works fine on it's own), or Messenger (which works fine, otherwise), or the OS being stupid.

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We won't shut up.
We won't go quietly away.

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and
My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

virang_2119-Jan-17 15:53

virang_21

19-Jan-17 15:53

First there was a Console and "Hello World"

Console.WriteLine("Hello World");

but there was no sepration of concern so we created a method that returns the string

SayHello()
{
	return "Hello World";
}

But it was missing business layer so we created a library and migrated method there

namespace something.BL
{
	public class SomeClass
	{
		SayHello()
		{
			return "Hello World";
		}
	}
}

But there was a database we wanted use so moved it to database and created a data layer to be called from BL.

namespace something.DL
{
	public class SomeDLClass
	{
		SayHello()
		{
			var message = ctx.HelloTable.Select(x=>x.Message).First();
			return message;
		}
	}
}

But our web page was empty so we used Webforms to show it to the world.

protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
	if(!Page.IsPostBack)
	{
	 	var result = BL.SayHello();
		lblMessage.Text = result;
	}
}

But Webforms are things of the past so migrated it to MVC

public class HomeController : Controller
{
        
        public ActionResult Index()
        {
			var model = BL.SayHello();
			return View(model);
		}
}

But that was not good as it slowed down page load so moved it out of MVC to make an AJAX call using JQuery.

JavaScript

$.ajax({

		 url: '/api/Hello/GetHello',
		 type: 'GET',
		 dataType: 'json',
		 success: function (data, textStatus, xhr) {
			$('#someId') = data;
		 },
		 error: function (xhr, textStatus, errorThrown) {
			 console.log('Error in Operation');
		 }

 });

But JQuery is directly manipulating DOM so we moved to Angular/VueJs/Aurelia etc.etc.

Let use {{message}} to bind to label and create a module to house the application
and a componenet that calls an Angular service which in trun calls Web API and returns Observable.

HtmlPage->Angular Component ->Angular Service ->Web API and back again.

What will be next for the poor old "Hello World" ?

Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *

Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

Mike Hankey19-Jan-17 16:04

Mike Hankey

19-Jan-17 16:04

You forgot DNA#

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Sander Rossel19-Jan-17 21:25

Sander Rossel

19-Jan-17 21:25

This code sucks.
Why aren't you using dependency injection?
I had expected some sort of repository pattern.
Your code that returns "Hello World" should implement an IHelloWorld interface.
You probably want to make a base class as well so implementers have something to go with out of the box.
I don't see any unit tests, so how do you know this works?
Also, where is the documentation? No programmer is ever going to understand what you wrote. Because you do everyone should, right?
And do you have a build server?
We want to make sure our code is validated as soon as it's put into source control.
You need it all, unit tests, database tests, UI tests, API tests, pen tests, integration tests, static code analyzers and, of course, automatic deployment.

Please read a book before you post some quick and dirty code in here Smile | :)

Best,
Sander

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megaadam19-Jan-17 21:41

megaadam

19-Jan-17 21:41

... such stuff as dreams are made on