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obermd wrote: none of the terms of the Drake Equation can be zero because we exist.
Right, that's why I don't need any convincing that other civilizations exist.
What I was bringing up was contact probabilities. So the Drake equation still brings value to the discussion IMO.
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Quote: I think they used the Sun as a "gravity assist"
To travel between solar systems takes light many many years. The technology to do that for a ship, I think, would be way ahead of having to use something as archaic as Gravity Assist.
So alien life. I think that would be more of a case of wishful thinking. 
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A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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Extraordinary assertions require extraordinary proof.
To date I have seen no convincing proof that ‘Oumuamua is anything but what it seems to be - a chunk of interstellar rock that happened to pass through our Solar System. I would be very interested in seeing incontrovertible evidence otherwise.
(And no, a Hydrogen "fart" as it left the Solar System is not incontrovertible evidence)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I'll take Occams Razor for 100, please. A starship is far more complex than a rock.
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Wasn't Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke?
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Hello Folks,
I wanted to do a non scientific "show of hands" so to speak...totally optional to participate, of course 
Curious, what music playlist(s) help you get "in the zone" when you're coding or programming?
What's your personal opinion, does listening to certain music help you get in the zone / write code faster / do complex systems and software engineering better?
Do you personally think there is any merit to those studies, such as this one[^], this one[^], and this one[^], that seem to indicate in the affirmative?
Or what about this Reddit user's post[^] where he says music does NOT help?
Is it all just up to the beholder, or is there a real effect?
OKAY...GO!
Regards,
Brian Hart
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Yes for Physics and Calculus it was Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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I just replied just a few minutes ago to your Bach thread saying I'm in the "no music" camp. Music distracts me. I might tolerate music without any singing when I'm coding. But music with actual lyrics is absolutely out of the question.
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same as 
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I like progressive and trance when I code. It helps me stay focused for long periods.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Progressive house, I assume? Progressive rock wouldn't focus me at all: I'd end up listening instead of coding.
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It depends, Electronic music of all kind and some 80's rock.
80's rock is reassuring, a known variable in my mental state.
For example today :
Boards Of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
Above & Beyond : Acoustic at the Hollywood Bowl.
Plastikman : Musik
Dubstar : Goodbye.
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If I am learning... nothing.
If I am "just" working... yes.
Mainly no singing, about the type it might be electronic, it might be epic, it might be chill out, it might be white noise... It depends on the day and the mood.
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Brian C Hart wrote: Do you personally think there is any merit to those studies, such as this one[^], this one[^], and this one[^], that seem to indicate in the affirmative?
Interestingly enough, not for coding. But, certain types of music can get me in the zone for working out. Then again, I don't really listen to music when coding as I want to "hear" my mind think. Working out is the exact opposite where music is a necessity.
Keep in mind I didn't click your links, but the mind works in associations with everything. Music may be one catalyst but associations are the root cause. If someone associated eating chocolate cake with coding then that would get them in the zone. So any study that simply looks at music alone is missing the actual picture.
Now, music can be a powerful association of course. A very powerful one, for reasons that would totally derail this chat. But the root is associations so the point I'm stressing here is they need to see the whole picture.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 59 mins ago.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: someone associated eating chocolate cake with coding
Mmmm...Donuts.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Mainly classical or stuff with no words to distract me. I do like video game soundtracks as they usually have some kind of motivating quality in them.
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This doesn't happen on CodeProject? (yay us)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: This doesn't happen on CodeProject?
It doesn't happen on CP and I'm really glad.
It's a very strange feature that some have implemented (before they even understand how it should be used).
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Skip to content
It allows users to bypass the navigation menu and go directly to the main content of a page. These links are useful for users who only use the keyboard or who use a screen reader. This is not a useless feature. They make your website more navigable, particularly for keyboard-only and screen-reader users.
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Rohit Teja Maddula wrote: particularly for keyboard-only and screen-reader users
A screen reader already knows the main content, if the web dev properly uses semantics. If they don't, then chances are they won't for this feature.
If you look at the OP mentioning what it takes to trigger this feature, then the user already needs to (in all likelihood) scroll past the main content first, which would negate any usefulness for this from an accessibility perspective for a blind person.
Might help the keyboard user though when tab cycling as space bar or page down won't change the tab focus.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 4hrs 15mins ago.
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I (could) agree. Except, why is it occurring for me? I don't use a screen-reader or keyboard-only.
I think it _could_ be a useful feature, if used properly.
However, it only causes me to have more keyboard touching and mouse clicking.
Not helpful.
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raddevus wrote: I think it _could_ be a useful feature, if used properly.
Next pal at the side of the goto's?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I've never seen that (on GH/GHE at least) using...
Firefox => Ubuntu
Firefox => Windows
Chrome => Windows
Lynx => CP/M (kidding)
Just tried it on Edge on Windows for poops and giggles and nothing. You got some sorta plugin installed?
Jeremy Falcon
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No, definitely not a plugin. I hadn't seen this feature ever either and then I started seeing it in Brave. I actually quit using Brave and switched to Edge to get away from this feature.
Alas, I've now seen it in Edge.
Again, it is a weird set of circumstances to make it occur so that's why I'm interested in knowing if others have seen it.
Also, I've checked the Accessibility options on my Ubuntu settings and I don't see anything that would indicate that it should use this Accessibility feature.
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