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Would you go with Win 7 or 8? ...my main dev target is desktop applications (C++/Java)...
...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.
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Albert Holguin wrote: easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.
Clickety[^] 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Why? 
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits.
- Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most.
- I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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I wasn't actually suggesting he get it. I was just pointing out the ease of hard drive insertion/removal[^] with that case design.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Oh. That's alright then - I got worried for a moment!
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits.
- Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most.
- I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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Somebody has more money than they need...In other words buying an apple product.
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You get what you pay for.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Sometimes.
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits.
- Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most.
- I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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Apple is obviously not perfect but they win a ton of design, quality and customer satisfaction awards. More than any other computer maker or consumer electronics maker I can think of.
Every Apple product I've owned has been rock solid. I wish I could say that of every other product I've owned.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Apple is obviously not perfect but they win a ton of design, quality and customer satisfaction awards. More than any other computer maker or consumer electronics maker I can think of.
Yeah, but I am different. Apple's OSX doesn't cut it, for me. Closed, opaque, nothing for a developer. IMO.
Mike Mullikin wrote: Every Apple product I've owned has been rock solid.
So is my desktop running Kubuntu 11.10, which I've built from parts. It's also a powerhouse (eight physical cores, 16 GB RAM), way more powerful than whatever Apple I could've bought for the same money, and the desktop eye candy is richer than what OSX provides.
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Florin Jurcovici wrote: Apple's OSX doesn't cut it, for me. Closed, opaque, nothing for a developer.
The OP is a Windows dev. At the OS level Windows is just as closed as OSX.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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I guess you never owned any of the early Mac's.
Or tried to get your Mac to interoperate reliably with a non-Apple Wi-Fi router.
Or ever wanted to migrate your music library to some other device.
Or relied on Apple time machine to make reliable back ups.
Or...
I don't hate Apple, I own two iPhone's and a Macbook pro, I also own one Windows laptop an two Windows desktops. I've actually had less trouble with my Windows systems then I have had with my Apple stuff.
The myth that Apple products are "rock solid" is just that -- a myth.
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TRK3 wrote: I guess you never owned any of the early Mac's.
True, I started with Intel Macs.
TRK3 wrote: Or tried to get your Mac to interoperate reliably with a non-Apple Wi-Fi router.
Ummmm.... it's works just fine and was as easy (or easier) to setup than Windows and Linux. In fact, I've never owned an Apple router.
TRK3 wrote: Or ever wanted to migrate your music library to some other device.
My music library (currently in iTunes) is 95% MP3. The remainder is AAC which are easily converted. What's the problem?
TRK3 wrote: Or relied on Apple time machine to make reliable back ups.
The one and only time I've required Time Machine (for a full restore) it worked just fine.
TRK3 wrote: I've actually had less trouble with my Windows systems then I have had with my Apple stuff.
We're going to have to agree to disagree. My experience has been exactly the opposite.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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My Experience:
The early Mac's were horrible -- if you didn't reboot every couple of hours they would hang. Back then you could go a whole day before you needed to reboot your windows machine. [We've come a long way -- I never feel compelled to reboot either anymore.]
My current Macbook Pro kept dropping it's WiFi connection with two different routers (no other device had a problem) and nothing would fix it until I bought the bullet and purchased an Apple router. No idea what the problem was, but it was cheaper just to pay the money then to keep trying to debug it.
iTunes does some funny things with multiple accounts and/or locations. I've found it easier to create my music collection using non-Apple software and import the files into iTunes rather than trying to go the other way around (probably works fine now, but I haven't bothered to try).
The one time I tried to restore a file from Time Machine it was unable to recover the supposedly backed up file. I couldn't tell what went wrong. I've since adopted a second backup scheme for my critical files -- and it works fine.
Your experience was your experience, mine was mine -- no disagreement.
In fact, since Apple has more control over the hardware and software, I'd expect the experience ought to be rock-solid.
Maybe it's just the fact that I expect Apple to be rock solid, and never expect a pc to work the first time without some effort.
It's always a big disappointment for me when an Apple system doesn't work flawlessly and it's always a pleasant surprise when a windows pc does...
So maybe the Apple failures just stand out more in my mind.
Also, when things do go wrong, I know my way around a windows system a little better, so it's easier for me to fix.
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No, sometimes you get a lot less than you pay for, especially when you are buying the latest in designer products. Apple has always been expensive for what you pay for, but I have to admit that they do a pretty slick job on their products, and their marketing is also very impressive.
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I think that saying should be "You don't get what you don't pay for" because you don't always get what you do pay for.
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Even in china the best gift is the one which is made by your kids.
Explains why Apple products are famous over there.
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Win8 for sure. Can do everything Win7 can + the new stuff.
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Yeah but you know there's the whole MS thing with every other OS being crap... although I haven't used 8 enough to know. Are you using that now?
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My main machines are all Win7, I do dual boot Win8 on a laptop. But I did quite a bit of dev on the beta and RC versions of W8 using VS 2012 beta and had few or no issues.
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Using Win8 here for development for the last few months. No problems at all. I like it.
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I'd go with Windows 8.
When getting a new machine at work, I always go with the latest OS.
Nihil obstat
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Albert Holguin wrote: ...I also was looking for something you could easily place/remove hard drives in case anyone knows of specific towers that let you do that easily.
Something like this[^]?
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Can you boot off USB from most motherboards? ...I haven't done that much but that could be the way to go (I want to be able to boot off the other drives to different Linux distros).
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