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Christopher Dorner manhunt impeded by snow in Big Bear[^].
Read the manifesto: Chris Dorner manifesto[^]. There is no justification for what he has done but these don't appear to me to be the ramblings of a madman.
He is feeding into the public mistrust of the police but if there's a grain of truth in his accusations they need to be addressed.
I hope they are able to capture him without any further loss of life.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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Regardless of right or wrong, accurate or not, that is one PISSED off dude.
Treat stressful situations like a dog, if you can't eat it, play with it or screw it, then just piss on it and walk away.
Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
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Very sad. Looks like another victim of the machine who will be hunted down and killed by the machine to protect itself from a man acting as it taught him to act. Responding with violence to violence without consideration for justice until whoever has the less fire power is dead and there's 'nothing to see here'. It's the downside residual of that transfer from barbarism to decadence so fast that civilisation got skipped right over, that someone around here has in their sig.
I'll get flamed for criticising the US from the outside but don't think its all that different here. We just have the opposite problem.
It's so long since anyone in the UK had to get off their basck side to protect themselves against tyranny or their own government that they've forgetten how to do it. Never mind bearing arms they've largely forgotten how to change their vote or even to say no. The people who stood alone against the empires of Napoleon and Hitler now seem largely willing to just bend over and take it from their own proxy government of stooges, bankers playthings and neo-fuedalist mad men. Alright rant over time for dinner
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: they've largely forgotten how to change their vote or even to say no.
not much different here..
Vote on party lines with no consideration for real values or beliefs(not talking religious but political etc...)
Matthew Faithfull wrote: bend over and take it from their own proxy government of stooges, bankers playthings and neo-fuedalist mad men.
again, pretty much the same here..
Treat stressful situations like a dog, if you can't eat it, play with it or screw it, then just piss on it and walk away.
Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: It's the downside residual of that transfer from barbarism to decadence so fast that civilisation got skipped right over, that someone around here has in their sig. Are you referring to me?
I'm glad I could be of service.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Yes you and good old Oscar. Easily my all time favourite gay man.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: my all time favourite gay man. I would probably go with George Takei or Neil Patrick Harris, but Wilde is definitely top 5.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Takei is a one-trick pony: he's spent his whole life living off of Sulu. (Okay: so he had mediocre part in Heroes).
Harris is very funny and a great actor.
But you'd compare either of these intellectual lightweights to Wilde? Really? They don't even come close. (that is not meant to be a pun of any description)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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It's simply my personal opinion. But while we're scrutinizing each other's opinion, you would compare Wilde, an acting lightweight, to Takei or NPH?
My point is that they are very different people and the act of comparing them is futile.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I would take an intellectual over an actor any day.
Colin Mullikin wrote: My point is that they are very different people and the act of comparing
them is futile.
Ah, so true.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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Matthew Faithfull wrote: Looks like another victim of the machine who will be hunted down and killed by the machine to protect itself from a man acting as it taught him to act. Responding with violence to violence without consideration for justice until whoever has the less fire power is dead and there's 'nothing to see here'. It's the downside residual of that transfer from barbarism to decadence so fast that civilisation got skipped right over,
There is a lot implicitly wrong in that. It seems to completely lack any real historical perspective.
For example, it ignores the fact that the "machine" has managed to instill the belief in many people that the person will in fact be captured and dealt with and society approves of that because it doesn't approve of murder. Compare this to feudal Europe hundreds of years ago or even many areas in the world today.
It also ignores the fact that the only reason that this individual will end up dead is because they chose that route. Certainly in the past there was never a choice and again in many areas in the world today there is no choice.
It even ignores the fact that currently in the US there is a MUCH more reasoned response to violence against police officers than in the past. Both in the expectation that they will be arrested if possible (rather than just killed) and with the options available in attempting to get an arrest versus just gunning him down.
Matthew Faithfull wrote: It's so long since anyone in the UK had to get off their basck side to protect themselves against tyranny or their own government that they've forgetten how to do it. Never mind bearing arms they've largely forgotten how to change their vote or even to say no. The people who stood alone against the empires of Napoleon and Hitler now seem largely willing to just bend over and take it from their own proxy government of stooges
Nonsense.
First it ignores the fact that the those scenarios presented a very real objective threat. Versus subjective disagreements with how to solve social issues which are best are incredibly difficult to solve and at worst impossible to solve.
Second, hard to say no to a war when the ruling elite's personal esteem is based on fighting everything. Which is how the British empire became the 'empire' in the first place.
Third it ignores the fact that at least the developed world is willing to deal with with more complex problems now. When a society completely ignores social problems it obviously doesn't need to attempt to solve them. Such as deciding that the poor are fated to be that way. Or that the only role for a woman in society is as a wife or prostitute.
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See my post above yours
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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