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The command has decided to upgrade all 7000 computers to Windows 10 before the first of the year. Microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out, because the DoD has to vet EVERY update to make sure it's compatible with all of the installed software.
What should really be fun, though, is AFTER the first of the year, they're going to update all of our database servers from SQL Server 2008 R2 to SQL Server 2012.
All of this also probably means that we're going to get VS2015.
I am generally resistant to change of any kind, and all of this might just be the impetus I need to just go ahead and retire.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out, because the DoD has to vet...
I havn't heard anything like that nor rumors thereof, any info you've seen?
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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I haven't heard anything, but something must have happened because our command is absurdly over the top regarding IT security.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: to SQL Server 2012.
Why not to the latest version? Or even a version newer than that one if not the latest.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Because Mickeysoft. Don't ever use something from them as long as it's still supported. By the time they cut off the support the worst bugs should be fixed.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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You must've missed the Visual Studio saga.
The fix is always the next version. Which invariably brings in its own set of problems.
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This is why I consequently don't use Visual Studio anymore. VS 2010 was the last one that was not totally souped up.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Heck, if it could compile for the latest .NET runtime, I'd be happy with VS2008.
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Sure. How about SharpDevelop? That's what I have been using and with it I can use any framework that is installed. Everything is a little more spartan, but that's not a bad thing. I only miss the feature to debug directly into webservices.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Interesting thought. I haven't looked into SharpDevelop in years.
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The same reason you don't go first while crossing a minefield.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Using the latest software of Microsoft is akin to being blown to bits?!   And Microsoft makes the best software in the world so I'd hate to be using the other guys minefields.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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GobblesGobbles wrote: And Microsoft makes the best software in the world
Only from time to time, it's not that absolute.
GobblesGobbles wrote: Using the latest software of Microsoft is akin to being blown to bits?!
Cause the death of someone due to bugs and you'll wish you'd been blown up...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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GobblesGobbles wrote: Or even a version newer than that one if not the latest.
Totally agree...at least 2014 I'd think.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Most DoD systems are several versions behind the curve. Beyond that, don't ask me questions that I can't answer because I'm not the one in-f*cking-charge of that crap, and I am not familiar with the inner-most workings of the lesser minds that are.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out
Patches Tuesdays in the Windows 10 world mean there's a single, large, all-inclusive update to download and install. Previous versions are still splitting updates into Windows, .NET, IE, Security vs "Quality" (HA!) updates, etc.
In theory it's more manageable...but that doesn't necessarily translate into reality. I'm currently looking at a machine of mine that fails to install this last Tuesday's update and insists on running some recovery thing which can't do jack-sh*t, and gets stuck in a loop. I clean installed Win10 1709 on that machine when it came out, because the updates for the previous version were broken and it had never managed to upgrade itself to 1703, which I had to skip. I haven't installed anything other than the OS on this box, so it's in a very clean state, less than 2 months old, and yet it manages to face-plant badly. To be fair though, I can't complain about the 5-6 other machines--physical and virtual--I also have running Win10.
This is just a media playback machine, hooked up to my projector, so I'm thinking this will be moved over to Linux soon. My current plan to sit back and watch some movie tonight has already been blown to sh*t, and I'm not going to put up with that any longer.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this into a rant.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Most DoD systems are several versions behind the curve.
Interesting. We did a project for the SBA (Small Business Administration) and they wanted the latest version of everything.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Working as a programmer for the DoD is a pain in the ass. There is pretty much no standard software (I've see PostGRE, Sql Server, and Oracle, all at the same command, and in EVERY instance, they are several versions behind the latest available).
Wanting "the latest version of everything" depends entirely on the contract, and the contracts are generally so poorly written that I'm surprised that anything gets done - at all. The contract I'm on had to be amended because it specifically called out MCSA for SQL Server 2008 R2, and when I came onboard, those cert tests weren't even available. And before I could take the first cert test for 2012, the contract had to be amended to "any currently available certification". Otherwise, I wouldn't be reimbursed by my employer.
I'm currently looking for other work - mostly because of Qlikview, but also because of the onerous requirements and almost total inability to get anything done in a timely fashion due to permission restrictions. It's a f*ckin circus.
And when they migrate to sql server 2012, there is exactly ONE developer that's a certified MCSA (me) to migrate over 500 mission critical jobs to the new server.
I plan on having a new job before that task is assigned to me.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Dunno 'bout Win10, but I think you'll like VS2015.
/ravi
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New version of Firefox is blazing fast.
Now if it just doesn't freeze up on ocassion.
[Update]
I started to see freezes after a little while using FF and when I looked at my memory meter, it's maxed out by FF. WTF?
Fast, Cheap or Buggy
Pick 2 eh?
Back to Chrome for a while until they get their collective heads out of there....
[/update]
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
modified 17-Nov-17 10:35am.
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It only appears to freeze when you stop thinking in Russian.
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Or it does something stupid, like firing missiles to the rear.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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я взломан
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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It even looks like it now also has separate processes for opened tabs. Freezing up and crashing all tabs was what made me switch to Chrome. Does freezing up now only affect one tab?
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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