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I have a Dell with SSD, is it correct that the SSD is the boot disk?
(Mine is failing to boot, cant find any bootable devices, trying to work out which disk is the culprit)
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Start with the BIOS: https://yourbusiness.azcentral.com/enter-bios-dell-18849.html[^] and check the Boot menu - it should list the boot devices in order it checks them. The first HDD should normally be your bootable, and is probably the SSD.
Check the disks menu as well and see if all your devices are recognised.
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Both disks are shown in the devices section. In the boot section though it says 'ubuntu' as the first device, then IP4 and IP6 as the second and third.
(It had windows 10 on it from the factory, I put on Ubuntu as the main boot OS, and put windows 10 and windows 7 in grub)
I am running a Dell long diagnostic on it currently, but using the latest Hierens bot CD the SSD didnt show up in disk manager, and in a disk repair tool it was showing as unmounted.
I wounder if the SSD has died...
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Settings about legacy? UEFI?
Munchies_Matt wrote: I wounder if the SSD has died...
Not usual but possible
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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It is on UEFI boot, always has been, so that shouldnt be a problem.
About the SDD dying, this is what I am tying to establish. If it is the main boot disk then it is odd that a solid state drive should fail.
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To check the drive, buy a 2.5-inch usb drive enclosure and put your ssd in it. Then, plug it into another computer. If you can access the files, at least you know the ssd is okay, and you can turn your attention to your multi-boot setup.
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You don't even need an enclosure - you can connect a SSD directly to any desktop that has a spare SATA port and power connector.
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Clearly, I don't dismantle enough lappies ... 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's an M.2 device and USB enclosures are available for those too, so you were still correct with your reply OriginalGriff 
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Mark Parity wrote: That's an M.2 device and USB enclosures are available for those too
Really?
That's an immediate add to my shopping list!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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They're kinda pricey compared to enclosures for normal SSDs. Expect to spend at least $30, and more often than not, $50-60.
I have a Samsung 960 EVO 500gb still in the box because I don't have an enclosure yet.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I'm beginning to see that -- and the fact that there are at least three different connector formats, so it's best to buy the cards first, and then the enclosures to match.
You might be lucky on price, though, because it looks like this[^] could be right for your one (if you're willing to wait a few weeks for delivery).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The good thing about standards ... and so on.
I had my university education learning networking from the first edition of the Tanenbaum book that expressed this lament, years before it became a commonly known adage. For those without access to the book: Tanenbaum made the remark to those very minor, yet very significant, differences between the HDLC link level protocol and IBMs SDLC line level protocol.
Personal note: I decided to give up my belief in SCSI as a future standard when I had to pay aorund USD 60 for another SCSI cable for the ninth SCSI plug in my computer setups, and the guy behind the counter said "You are lucky - there are fourteen different SCSI plugs, all defined as 'standard'".
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: They're kinda pricey compared to enclosures for normal SSDs. Expect to spend at least $30, and more often than not, $50-60.
I have a Samsung 960 EVO 500gb still in the box because I don't have an enclosure yet.
Got my mSATA/M2 to SATA/USB adapter for either AUD$20.00 or AUD25.00, the shop had them on the shelf.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mark_Wallace wrote: That depends on the SSD card. Some laptop ones don't use standard SATA connectors, and have to be mounted in the laptop[^].
Don't you have an mSATA/M2 to USB adapter in your kit bag? I have one in my laptop bag at all times along with several other adapters that come in handy.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Don't you have an mSATA/M2 to USB adapter in your kit bag?
Not yet.
Give it a couple of days.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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2.5-inch SATA SSDs all have the same cable interface. For the nVME SSD's you can get an appropriate enclosure for those as well. All you have to do is be mindful of the connection type and what type of drive it is (there are apparantly three types, and two? connector types).
I'm assuming that the drive in question is a standard 2.5 inch SATA drive.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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My Dell laptop has an M.2 SSD, so be aware that it is a different connection (ssd is like a horizontal card that slots into a connection on the motherboard and they come in different lengths).
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All of the nVME enclosures I've seen support the three most common drive lengths, so only the interface (SATA, PCIe) and connector type (M or B) seem to matter.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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OriginalGriff wrote: You don't even need an enclosure - you can connect a SSD directly to any desktop that has a spare SATA port and power connector.
Not in a Dell laptop. Dell uses the M.2 interface for their laptop SSDs.
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Did you install grub-efi-bin after the Ubuntu installation. The new boot type ignore device discovery and only search for the catalog inside the small UEFI partition. You can put that on your HDD or SSD, but it needs to be GPT, has bootable flag and a proper GUID. 512 MB is usually enough.
UEFI multiboot is a pain, not because it is impossible, but it requires so many stuff to be done manually.
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Did you install grub-efi-bin after the Ubuntu installation. The new boot type ignore device discovery and only search for the catalog inside the small UEFI partition. You can put that on your HDD or SSD, but it needs to be GPT, has bootable flag and a proper GUID. 512 MB is usually enough.
UEFI multiboot is a pain, not because it is impossible, but it requires so many stuff to be done manually.
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There wasnt even an EFI partition left on the laptop. Seems there was oe on the SSD drive, but the entire drive (also had windows 10 on the c partition) got wiped.
Christ knows how!
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I have had Crucials DIE on me. SO they can go bad.
In fact, the Crucial would BOOT and CRASH.
They had a known bug where after X hours of usage, you were limited to like 10 minutes and it would shut down to protect itself. LMAO, not enough time to back it up... UGH, the pain!
Overall, if you can see the drive in the BIOS, it is responding.
If you are not seeing it in other Operating Systems, it "could" be the driver, or HOW the drive got formatted. Try booting some Backup Software and see what it sees.
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