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Lopatir wrote: Your company seems a bit tight
I had exactly the opposite reaction, the bank I work for puts on a nice 2 hour lunch and then back to work where you are expected to work till 7pm and of course there is no alcohol because you need to work after lunch.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: the bank I work
Please tell us it's not a Japanese bank...
my wife used to work for such, they 'expected' the general staff to always arrive before the [of course all Jp] managers regardless if your department or not, they expected the staff never to leave before the managers; applied to lunch times too. And I'm sure you know how long those guys like to work, and there was no such thing as a joke, ever.
Except during the year and dinner and dance: those same managers turned into a completely different species, they smiled, laughed, swore... and drank enough to make a fish blush - an entire year of fun exploding in 1 evening. Next working day: back to a form that would make Spock jealous.
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One company I worked for used to do it - deliberately - in April.
They figured you got a better restaurant and better food for less money that way.
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My local ASDA has a big display at the entrance: "38 Sleeps to Xmas!"
If I still smoked, I'd set fire to it...
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I'm planning to have a lot more sleeps than that.
They don't count my Saturday afternoon post pub & football snooze or my Sunday teatime one or the random weekday snoozes I take in the spare office.
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Well - if you were in the US of A, you could have called it a Thanksgiving dinner.
Since Thanksgiving dinner is normally a family affair, having the work-version six days early would seem quite alright. If anyone's interested, Thanksgiving the the most popular holiday in the US
Give a turkey something to be thankful for . . . eat baked ziti
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And one turkey is traditionally saved by the president. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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The command has decided to upgrade all 7000 computers to Windows 10 before the first of the year. Microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out, because the DoD has to vet EVERY update to make sure it's compatible with all of the installed software.
What should really be fun, though, is AFTER the first of the year, they're going to update all of our database servers from SQL Server 2008 R2 to SQL Server 2012.
All of this also probably means that we're going to get VS2015.
I am generally resistant to change of any kind, and all of this might just be the impetus I need to just go ahead and retire.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out, because the DoD has to vet...
I havn't heard anything like that nor rumors thereof, any info you've seen?
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I haven't heard anything, but something must have happened because our command is absurdly over the top regarding IT security.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: to SQL Server 2012.
Why not to the latest version? Or even a version newer than that one if not the latest.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Because Mickeysoft. Don't ever use something from them as long as it's still supported. By the time they cut off the support the worst bugs should be fixed.
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You must've missed the Visual Studio saga.
The fix is always the next version. Which invariably brings in its own set of problems.
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This is why I consequently don't use Visual Studio anymore. VS 2010 was the last one that was not totally souped up.
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Heck, if it could compile for the latest .NET runtime, I'd be happy with VS2008.
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Sure. How about SharpDevelop? That's what I have been using and with it I can use any framework that is installed. Everything is a little more spartan, but that's not a bad thing. I only miss the feature to debug directly into webservices.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Interesting thought. I haven't looked into SharpDevelop in years.
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The same reason you don't go first while crossing a minefield.
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Using the latest software of Microsoft is akin to being blown to bits?!   And Microsoft makes the best software in the world so I'd hate to be using the other guys minefields.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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GobblesGobbles wrote: And Microsoft makes the best software in the world
Only from time to time, it's not that absolute.
GobblesGobbles wrote: Using the latest software of Microsoft is akin to being blown to bits?!
Cause the death of someone due to bugs and you'll wish you'd been blown up...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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GobblesGobbles wrote: Or even a version newer than that one if not the latest.
Totally agree...at least 2014 I'd think.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Most DoD systems are several versions behind the curve. Beyond that, don't ask me questions that I can't answer because I'm not the one in-f*cking-charge of that crap, and I am not familiar with the inner-most workings of the lesser minds that are.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Microsoft must have modified the way updates are pushed out
Patches Tuesdays in the Windows 10 world mean there's a single, large, all-inclusive update to download and install. Previous versions are still splitting updates into Windows, .NET, IE, Security vs "Quality" (HA!) updates, etc.
In theory it's more manageable...but that doesn't necessarily translate into reality. I'm currently looking at a machine of mine that fails to install this last Tuesday's update and insists on running some recovery thing which can't do jack-sh*t, and gets stuck in a loop. I clean installed Win10 1709 on that machine when it came out, because the updates for the previous version were broken and it had never managed to upgrade itself to 1703, which I had to skip. I haven't installed anything other than the OS on this box, so it's in a very clean state, less than 2 months old, and yet it manages to face-plant badly. To be fair though, I can't complain about the 5-6 other machines--physical and virtual--I also have running Win10.
This is just a media playback machine, hooked up to my projector, so I'm thinking this will be moved over to Linux soon. My current plan to sit back and watch some movie tonight has already been blown to sh*t, and I'm not going to put up with that any longer.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this into a rant.
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