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Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam.
I lied (laid ?) down on one this week.
Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days.
But then,,,,,,
Is that such a bad thing ?
I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon.
Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ?
Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?
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I need a new mattress, so I'll consider this option. I know you get some fancy ones with different density layers, memory foam, etc.
It seems like it could be hot / sweaty in summer? And I'm not sure about long term durability?
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Foam is not good for hot country, it makes you feel uncomfortable
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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Nice for the top layer, but can be a bit firm. If you want more give, put an inch of memory foam on a sprung mattress.
Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects.
I always go here when in doubt about English words. https://www.etymonline.com/[^] It gives their origin, and origin is always the correct meaning.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: lie for people, lay for objects
Unless you're out getting laid. 
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But then you are the object, no? 
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But most of my friends lied about getting laid.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects.
Nonsense.
Try looking it up from somewhere that isn't wikipedia, and isn't only an "on-line resource" (e.g. one that doesn't include words like "expert" and "girl" in its title).
Munchies_Matt wrote: https://www.etymonline.com/[^]
WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything?
According to the etymology of "precise", it means "truncated".
A huge proportion of our words do not mean what their etymological root words mean, and don't even start to say that their usage has remained the same.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything?
Indeed, what has its original meaning got to do with its meaning eh? 
Lay or lie ? - English Grammar Today - Cambridge Dictionary[^]
"The verb lay means ‘to put something down carefully in a flat position’. It must have an object. "
"Lie is a verb which means ‘to be in or put yourself into a flat position’. ... the past simple is lay"
And of course as with all weak/strong forms of verbs you can use 'lied' as well as 'lay' as the past simple of 'to lie'.
So 'she lied on the bed' is the same as 'she lay on the bed'.
(if you dont know about weak strong verbs yet think about dived dove, weaved wove, etc. A strong form is one where the participle spelling is maintained in the past simple. )
But 'to lay' as a verb is for an object.
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Your lack of knowledge of English grammar is amply demonstrated by your mindless misinterpretation of the clause "It must have an object".
Look up the grammatical meaning of the word "object".
It is neither the same as its meaning in programming, nor in the way that you interpreted it.
Hint: it says "have an object", not "be an object" (but even that is not strictly true -- it must be able to take an object, not always have one).
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I didnt say 'be an object' I said 'lay for objects'.
Moron.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Moron
Your new signature is highly appropriate.
Let's hope it's not a transitive thing (which is unlikely, because you obviously don't know the meaning of "transitive").
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Behind every paradox lies a Cretan.
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I wouldnt even call him a paradox, just wrong, every single time.
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Epimenides was wrong? Did he lie? Well, he told you he did!
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There's no point in trying to have an intelligent or intellectual discussion with fatboy/munchies matt.
If you heard a whooshing noise, it was the meaning of what you said flying over his head -- but don't worry: he'll google for a wikipedia page on the subject, and instantly become the world's greatest expert on it.
Thankfully, he's the only troll that has made CP his home.
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I am sure you know all about Greek philosophers though.
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You will have to explain, it is lost on me.
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Epimenides was a philosopher in the old Greece.
He was born in Crete, and is father of one of the first world-known logical paradoxes, when he claimed that "Everything said by a man from Crete is a lie!" But since he was a Cretan himself, his statement was a lie: It is NOT true that everything said by a Cretan is a lie, some of their statements are true. But if some statements made by Cretans are true, then his statement is a lie, making it true that he lied ... or whichever way you want to turn it. Paradoxes are that way.
The word play on "lie" is of course not from old Greece, and probably cannot be translated to any other language.
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Even if knew of this chap I still wouldnt see its relevance to what I wrote!
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I just wanted to make a funny follow up to the lye - lie discussion by bringning in the second meaning of lie, and how a sentence can have two meanings depending on which meaning of lie you select.
If you don't know of Epimenides paradox, you would never think of the second meaning, that of telling a lie, and would only get the first meaning, "lies behind" in the "is the source of" meaning.
Knowing of Epimenide and his paradox you would probably make the asspcoation between paradox and the famous Cretan, hinting you about the alternate meaning of lie.
And that's as far as that joke will go. If you don't think it is funny, just skip over it.
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A little too obscure for me I am afraid. 
Member 7989122 wrote: follow up to the lye
that's a slippery one!
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Foam is a really fantastic way for manufacturers to save a huge amount on costs (without reducing prices, of course).
The technology for sprung mattresses (yes, it is very complicated) has been tested and proven to an unbelievable degree.
Anyone who tries to con you into buying a cheap slab of foam rubber (which will probably slowly poison you in your sleep, anyway) should be given short shrift.
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Yes, this is why they didnt use memory foam for the couches in space ships of course. 
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Your bedroom (which I shouldn't be surprised to find is in the basement of your mother's house) may be done up like a spaceship, but the rest of us have grown-ups' furniture.
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